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    SouthernMann
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    @barbarian said in The decline and fall of the Melbourne Cup:

    @SouthernMann said in The decline and fall of the Melbourne Cup:

    Is the Melbourne Cup/horse racing on the decline. No way. It is getting new fans, it is becoming more engaged in becoming entertainment for everyone attending. Look at the crowd at the Everest. Very young. Not just old blokes in tweed jackets.

    And in that regard I think the VRC/ATC have been very smart, pivoting from Carnivals and big days being festivals rather than just race days.

    But I do contest your point to some extend, in that while the day itself is well attended, it's on the decline in the sense that it's no longer 'the race that stops a nation' where 80-90% of the general population have an interest in the race, who wins etc.

    Can say that about anything though. The NPC final in NZ used to get 35k attending. It doesn't anymore. People are getting more diverse interests. Racing clubs, are pivoting to ensure younger people are enjoying events. There are good events during the year.

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    so attendance is up, viewership is up, betting numbers are up, but it's on the "decline"?

    and you are basing it on a made up number of 20-24 million people caring at some point in the past? right

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    I think this topic is more a reflection on the workplace getting increasingly risk-adverse to work related booze-up's than the popularity of the Melbourne Cup itself.

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    @mariner4life said in The decline and fall of the Melbourne Cup:

    so attendance is up, viewership is up, betting numbers are up, but it's on the "decline"?

    and you are basing it on a made up number of 20-24 million people caring at some point in the past? right

    Well viewership is down. In 2012 there were 2.7 million metropolitan Aus viewers, while last year there was just 1.02m. That continued a general downward trend. We've had 'lowest ratings ever' figures every year since 2019.

    And I'm basing it on my experience in workplaces, and my wife and family as well. Not a scientific poll but it's not nothing either when you are talking about cultural relevance.

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    I reckon it’s at least 90% about workplace drinking culture thank anything racing related

    Workplaces can’t be seen to be encouraging boozing on their premises and time anymore, they’ll end up in court with cases levelled against them.

    And for the worker, a poorly judged joke doesn’t mean rocking up to work the next day feeling a little sheepish - it can earn you a cancellation and a pretty uncomfortable conversation with the missus and any future employer

    And of course there are real events that have occurred which can’t be dismissed

    I think it’s a shame we can’t find the balance of a few drinks, dressing nice, some banter, v going to absolute zero. Like others, I never stay late at work functions ( nothing good happens after 10pm rule), but I’m pretty partisl to having a couple with colleagues early. Great way to get to know them a little

    Anyway, we have a telly on in the office, a sweep, a few drinks too - then it’s back to work for me for the remaining 5 meetings in my diary - so anyone having fun today can get fcked!

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    it's fast losing relevance for me if the punt doesn't fucking improve. jesus wept

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    On my way to the GC turf club and there's plenty of dolled up fillies on their way to functions.

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    @mariner4life said in The decline and fall of the Melbourne Cup:

    it's fast losing relevance for me if the punt doesn't fucking improve. jesus wept

    I'm staring down a very ugly day. Struggled putting my finger in the snooze it has been that bad

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    i've got donuts so far. money back for a 2nd the best i have to show.

    and now it's the Cup turkey shoot. i've got a few first 4s floating around....

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    I've got a filthy first four and Sharp n Smart paying 70s.

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    I said to some mates earlier in the day I habe no idea who wins it. But, I doubt a horse paying under 20s will be there at the finish. That a horse paying over $30s will win. There we have it. Can't wait for the story about some dero picking a straight first four

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    my biggest win bet was on Okita Soushi and i was feeling good and then boom!

    fuck ya

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    @mariner4life said in The decline and fall of the Melbourne Cup:

    my biggest win bet was on Okita Soushi and i was feeling good and then boom!

    fuck ya

    Hope you also got the $5 on the place

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    lol no

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    Only down $10 for the day. So a good Melbourne Cup day on the punt all things considered.

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    Pub was pumping, people were punting. Going off!!!!

    Great day.

    Mafia Whispers race two at New Plymouth if you like money

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    Office watched the race. Sweeps sold out.

    Barbs might be right though, I'm on the only one who put effort in to dressing for the cup

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    Yay. I won the Melbourne Cup! (Sweep) This has convinced me the the higher the odds the better the horf. Ladbrokes had him at $151 ... wish put a bet on it.

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    Mrs Womble is overseas but sent me a message with the ones that had the nicest silks....put money on two of them but discarded the 101/1 outsider......

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    @booboo said in The decline and fall of the Melbourne Cup:

    Yay. I won the Melbourne Cup! (Sweep) This has convinced me the the higher the odds the better the horf. Ladbrokes had him at $151 ... wish put a bet on it.

    yeah I had it in the sweep...went to top up my TAB account to put a fiver e/w, but a client rang, then forgot....TAB odds were as always, much lower, $80/$20

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