Scotland vs Springboks
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Date: Sunday 10th November 2024
Venue: Scottish Gas Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Kick-off: 4:10pm
Referee: Christophe Ridley (England)
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2 Saffers and 2 Aussies in Scotland team. This is a big test for the Boks. Glasgow has been very impressive in URC.
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@OomPB said in Scotland vs Springboks:
2 Saffers and 2 Aussies in Scotland team. This is a big test for the Boks. Glasgow has been very impressive in URC.
Yeah I think Bill McLaren would choke on his famous grouse if he lived to see the day his beloved Scots were captained by a Tongan with an Aussie accent !
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@MN5 Ja , everything has changed.
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@OomPB Do I have a historical fact for you!
“Ian Scott Smith (31 October 1903 – 18 September 1972) was a rugby union wing who played 32 Tests for Scotland and two Tests for the British Isles. Born in Melbourne, Australia, and brought up in New Zealand, Smith moved to England and was educated at Winchester College, before studying at Oxford University and later Edinburgh University. At Oxford he took up rugby and was eventually selected for Scotland, for whom he was eligible because of his Scottish parents.
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In 1933, Smith captained Scotland for the Home Nations Championship.”
From Tony Collins’ A Social History of English Rugby Union (2009), p. 164:
“As the rugby correspondent of the Athletic News pointed out just before the First World War, there were no formal guidelines for national selection: ‘sentiment enters the process of qualification to a very great extent and if the stranger from afar has a reasonable sort of association with the land wherein he is domiciled he may, if he possesses no previous national distinction, be picked for that very land of temporary residence’. [...]
[T]he IB refused to ‘take any steps towards defining international qualifications’ but suggested cryptically that if a player took part in a trial match for a national side, that fact should be ‘worthy of the sporting considerations of several unions’, thus avoiding taking any position whatsoever. The immediate beneficiaries of the IB’s fence-sitting were the Scots, who won a Grand Slam in 1925 with a three-quarter line that included Melbourne-born and New Zealand-educated Ian Smith, 1921 All Black captain George Aitken and A.C. ‘Johnny’ Wallace, who was to captain the New South Wales tour of the UK in 1927.”
Sorry to intervene, I just thought it was interesting how much present-day Scotland rugby mirrors the team from a century ago.
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@Mauss said in Scotland vs Springboks:
@OomPB Do I have a historical fact for you!
“Ian Scott Smith (31 October 1903 – 18 September 1972) was a rugby union wing who played 32 Tests for Scotland and two Tests for the British Isles. Born in Melbourne, Australia, and brought up in New Zealand, Smith moved to England and was educated at Winchester College, before studying at Oxford University and later Edinburgh University. At Oxford he took up rugby and was eventually selected for Scotland, for whom he was eligible because of his Scottish parents.
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In 1933, Smith captained Scotland for the Home Nations Championship.”
From Tony Collins’ A Social History of English Rugby Union (2009), p. 164:
“As the rugby correspondent of the Athletic News pointed out just before the First World War, there were no formal guidelines for national selection: ‘sentiment enters the process of qualification to a very great extent and if the stranger from afar has a reasonable sort of association with the land wherein he is domiciled he may, if he possesses no previous national distinction, be picked for that very land of temporary residence’. [...]
[T]he IB refused to ‘take any steps towards defining international qualifications’ but suggested cryptically that if a player took part in a trial match for a national side, that fact should be ‘worthy of the sporting considerations of several unions’, thus avoiding taking any position whatsoever. The immediate beneficiaries of the IB’s fence-sitting were the Scots, who won a Grand Slam in 1925 with a three-quarter line that included Melbourne-born and New Zealand-educated Ian Smith, 1921 All Black captain George Aitken and A.C. ‘Johnny’ Wallace, who was to captain the New South Wales tour of the UK in 1927.”
Sorry to intervene, I just thought it was interesting how much present-day Scotland rugby mirrors the team from a century ago.
Excellent wicket keeper/batsman and now commentator.
Loves a feed and mentions Hawke’s Bay quite a lot
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@mariner4life said in Scotland vs Springboks:
you are already the MVP
It's confirmed, I'm the Derrick Rose of the Silver Fern.
Can't wait to absolutely blow out my knee and be the forum journeyman I was always meant to be.
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Smith strikes 50 as Mostert and Snyman return for Scotland showdown
Springbok loose forward Kwagga Smith will earn his 50th Test cap on Sunday when South Africa line up against Scotland at Murrayfield in their opening Castle Lager Outgoing Tour clash.
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7-1 bench.
The England test is 6 days away, so probably save his A team for next week.
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Scots:
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Tom Jordan – Glasgow Warriors (1)
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Blair Kinghorn – Toulouse (53)
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Huw Jones – Glasgow Warriors (51)
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Sione Tuipulotu – Glasgow Warriors (28) CAPTAIN
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Duhan van der Merwe – Edinburgh Rugby (42)
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Finn Russell – Bath Rugby (80) VICE-CAPTAIN
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Ben White – Toulon (22)
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Pierre Schoeman – Edinburgh Rugby (35)
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Ewan Ashman – Edinburgh Rugby (20)
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Zander Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors (68)
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Grant Gilchrist – Edinburgh Rugby (73)
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Scott Cummings – Glasgow Warriors (40)
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Matt Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors (48)
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Rory Darge – Glasgow Warriors (23) VICE-CAPTAIN
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Jack Dempsey – Glasgow Warriors (21)
Replacements
- Dylan Richardson – The Sharks (4)
- Rory Sutherland – Glasgow Warriors (33)
- Elliot Millar Mills – Northampton Saints (5)
- Max Williamson – Glasgow Warriors (5)
- Josh Bayliss – Bath Rugby (7)
- Jamie Ritchie – Edinburgh Rugby (52)
- Jamie Dobie – Glasgow Warriors (7)
- Stafford McDowall – Glasgow Warriors (6)
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@Smuts is that Scottish numbering?
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@Machpants and the president of WR.
Ian Smith (rugby union, born 1903) - Wikipedia
