New Zealand is a top sporting nation for its size"
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@booboo said in New Zealand is a top sporting nation for its size":
@sparky said in New Zealand is a top sporting nation for its size":
And add winning the America's Cup five times and three in a row to the Honours Board.
I thought UAE won it?
Just pipped Monaco
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"Aotearoa has a lot of aura" ... considering most of the continent is underwater.
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What is so poignant about this victory is that not only was it against South Africa our nemesis in Rugby and 7s, it was around a year ago since the Rugby World Cup final give or take. I really believe this weekend has probably cemented us as probably the best sporting nation per capita in the World. In order to reach the final we had to beat the West Indies who are essentially a collection of small countries including the three who were ahead of us in medals per capital at the Olympics.
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TheNZTeam In addition to this. We had a few good finishes in other sports. Our league boys and girls and All Blacks will be wanting to stepup for next weekend.
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We are one of the wealthier countries in the world, yes I think we do punch above our weight, but we also have more money and resources to put into our sporting teams than loads of other countries. It's a pretty difficult thing to judge with so many variables.
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@No-Quarter said in New Zealand is a top sporting nation for its size":
We are one of the wealthier countries in the world
interestingly 22nd out of 192. I thought we'd be lower!
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@dogmeat said in New Zealand is a top sporting nation for its size":
Hyperbole or what?
Got to accept that at a global level all the weekend's successes were in niche sports
Or not. Given the population of the Indian subcontinent alone is nearly 2 Billion, cricket is pretty big for a niche sport.
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@SBW1 said in New Zealand is a top sporting nation for its size":
All the curves in the right places.
All the isthmus
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@dogmeat said in New Zealand is a top sporting nation for its size":
@Donsteppa I wondered who would bring up the Indian population red herring.
There are varied measures out there when I had a look last night, but cricket seems to sit somewhere in quite a few Top 10 sporting code measures. Quite often #2 by viewership behind football, though some of those reports do seem to be citing each other...
Not every Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, or Nepalese national loves cricket, but that's the same with NZ and rugby, etc etc.
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@Donsteppa Yeah I think numbers supporting need to be looked at carefully when one really populous nation is involved.
Table Tennis has over a billion followers - mostly in East Asia. It's a niche sport too.
Pencak Silat is the national sport of Indonesia, followed by hundreds of millions globally and has biannual world championships with around 70 member nations (including NZ) I'd never heard of it until 5 minutes ago.
To me cricket is as niche as rugby. It has more fans thanks to the sub-continent but rugby has greater depth of participating nations.
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So outside of soccer which people generally accept as a global sport, are there any others not considered "niche"? You could make an argument for all of them being niche if you want I'd say.
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@dogmeat I think the risk is that everything but football can become - and be dismissed as - a niche sport.
I'm probably more knee deep in cricket social media than most, but unless we're defining it by full ICC membership, I've not formed a view that cricket has fewer participating nations than rugby. The Indian diaspora playing a part in that (among other factors).
@No-Quarter Snap!
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@No-Quarter Athletics is an obvious one. But I would say that Tennis and Golf are more global games than Rugby or Cricket.
@Donsteppa Participating nations is another red herring IMO See NZ / Pencak Silat. Cricket has 12 Test playing nations and 8 associates with ODI status and 2 more with T20 status. Then scores of countries with a Board affiliated to the ICC.
By the most generous of definitions there are 22 'competitive' nations at a global level. Numbers 21 and 22 being PNG and Thailand.
The 21st and 22nd ranked test rugby nations are Canada and Chile. My point wasn't about how many nations participate in each sport - it's the global depth of the sport.
NZ is ranked 22 in basketball. I'd say there's another sport with more depth and global reach than cricket. I'd give NZ more chance of being competitive against the USA at basketball than Thailand against South Africa in rugby
Personally my favourite sport is cricket (test) by a country mile
Anyway not to detract from the weekends achievements. All awesome in their own right.