EPL 2024/2025
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@DaGrubster said in EPL 2024/2025:
@dogmeat said in EPL 2024/2025:
Gotta feel for Dyche. Saved them from relegation - dealt with a points deduction and the club don't even thank him for his efforts in their statement. Crass
It’s the people club!
Dyche will be fine, 6 month payout and his particular skill set will always be in demand.
He may become the new Big Sam and become a relegation troubleshooter!
Yes you can imagine Big Sean getting a call in March from a club on a bad run conceding a lot of goals.
Looks like 2 from 4 to come up into the prem, 2 relegated clubs and Leeds with only Sunderland the surprise team of the season. Burnley look the toughest team to beat with only 2 defeats and 9 goals conceded in 26 games but too many draws for them. Luton surprisingly towards the bottom when many fancied them to come straight back up - and Rob Edwards has just left the club.
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@sparky said in EPL 2024/2025:
Great win for the Pilgrims in the FA Cup Third Round against Brentford. I hope there is enough cider for the locals to celebrate that one.
Great to see. They've been getting battered from pillar to post in the championship under Rooney, and then go to one of the hardest grounds to travel to in the football league and pull off a miracle. Fair play to them.
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Kai gives Arsenal fans food. For thought.
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@canefan said in EPL 2024/2025:
I see David Moyes has returned to Everton as coach. IMHO he did his best work there, they love him, probably should never have left
I genuienly felt sorry for Moyes (though this is recalling acient history) he always seemed to be able to wring the best our of Everton's limited roster (especially compared to what Man U had at the time) and I thought he was a great replacement for Sir Alex.
But the poor guy got crucified there and to be fair in the fullness of time it's not like any other manager has gotten remotely close to the glory days for Man U since Sir Alex.
Anyway if he does return to Everton I wish him well.
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What difference does Moyes make over Dyche? Both set their teams up to play out of possession but never enjoy playing with the ball, and the difference here is, is that Moyes doesn't have a Paqueta, Rice or Bowen to bail him out. Infact, even Mohammed Kudus would be the most dangerous player in this Everton side.
He might keep them up but it feels like a sideways appointment to me.
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@African-Monkey said in EPL 2024/2025:
What difference does Moyes make over Dyche? Both set their teams up to play out of possession but never enjoy playing with the ball, and the difference here is, is that Moyes doesn't have a Paqueta, Rice or Bowen to bail him out. Infact, even Mohammed Kudus would be the most dangerous player in this Everton side.
He might keep them up but it feels like a sideways appointment to me.
I guess that's where they are at right now. I think Moyes has a higher ceiling though, he certainly has history and fond memories there
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Moyes' Everton roster wasn't limited at all, they had some really good pieces. Prime Tim Cahill and Mikel Arteta in midfield for instance. That team was miles better than what he is going to work with now
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I think if Dyche is a Ford Focus then Moyes is also a Ford Focus but with a few added extra. The Moyes style at West Ham was very much like Dyche's at Everton which was a focus on solidity and defence with attacking players who are dangerous on the break. Fans only like it for as long as it delivers results but would rather watch a front foot team.
I'm not sure if they would have ditched Dyche if he hadn't appeared to be reluctant to carry on - it seems maybe the players had turned against him and his style. I can actually see it being a disaster for Moyes if things don't improve - they should be better than 3 other teams but if Ipswich and Wolves continue improving, Everton will need to win a few games to be safe.
At Everton, not every Moyes season was good but they usually finished in the top 10 and for his final 7 seasons they were no lower than 8th. He has always liked those workmanlike players - Cahill, Osman, Carsley at Everton and Soucek, Bowen at West Ham. Not sure who he inherits from this current squad who can do that though.
Curious fact I heard on a podcast - Moyes will have managed Everton in his 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s.
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@mariner4life said in EPL 2024/2025:
Moyes' Everton roster wasn't limited at all, they had some really good pieces. Prime Tim Cahill and Mikel Arteta in midfield for instance. That team was miles better than what he is going to work with now
With Leighton Baines, Tim Howard, Marouane Fellaini, Jolene Lescott etc. to go with it.
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