Highlanders v Crusaders
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@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
You'd think with Hurley. Even if there is an early back three injury Gilbert will go on. Looks like he really was the last outside back standing in the squad
im thinking i would have been tempted to have gone 6/2 split just too have bigger bodies and changed gameplan to suit
And it looks like Parkinson, Hicks, Sanders and the unplayed Hayden Michaels were all available
Will be interesting to see how many are playing club on the weekend. Hicks is clearly out of favor but I would have had Paripari ahead of Tucker personally, he could have been massive off the bench. Just hope PPP can get the injuries behind him because there is huge potential there and with Dunshea, Holland and him, that’s a great locking trio moving forward.
I have a feeling we won't see Parkinson in a Highlanders jersey again. He has been playing club rugby. There are rumours of two lock spots being available for next year. Oli Haig and Hugo Plummer have been selected ahead of him at lock. Resds like he is on the shelf and his ticket is booked out of Dunedin
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@SouthernMann thats such a stupid move mid season (unless there is some off field issue)
far from perfect but i think did enough to be there before putting people out of position
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@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann thats such a stupid move mid season (unless there is some off field issue)
far from perfect but i think did enough to be there before putting people out of position
Dunshea, Holland and Tucker are seen as the top three specialist locks. Haig appears to be in favour with the coaching staff, especially with no Renton. It seems like there is some longstanding frustrations with Parkinson. All the attributes to be an absolute beast. Just hasn't really delivered. Compare him to how Holland rips in as a big man and it is chalk and cheese.
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@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Duluth said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
Looks like Kellow has passed Christie in the rankings
It’s an interesting one. Razor is a huge Christie fan and the chat was he was next in contention for the AB’s 7, especially with Razor in the role now. Unsure what’s going on but personally I don’t think he’s impactful enough, good player but not international level(yet).
Looking for more go forward, Kellow seen as a better ball carrier.
Barrett all good a pinched nerve all sorted, he trained Yesterday with no problems. -
@Chris Kellow's better at breakdown too, much quicker over the ball.
As well as Razor managed to get every bit out of Christie and how hard he tries, he's too one dimensional to be in this current Crusaders side looking for wins.
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This Highlanders team has to be one of the youngest ever put out by the club. It includes nine players 22 and younger. Keeping that in mind we should expect mistakes. We are expecting very inexperienced players to learn at the highest level. It is like putting the full graduate programme at the executive table.
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@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
You'd think with Hurley. Even if there is an early back three injury Gilbert will go on. Looks like he really was the last outside back standing in the squad
im thinking i would have been tempted to have gone 6/2 split just too have bigger bodies and changed gameplan to suit
And it looks like Parkinson, Hicks, Sanders and the unplayed Hayden Michaels were all available
Will be interesting to see how many are playing club on the weekend. Hicks is clearly out of favor but I would have had Paripari ahead of Tucker personally, he could have been massive off the bench. Just hope PPP can get the injuries behind him because there is huge potential there and with Dunshea, Holland and him, that’s a great locking trio moving forward.
I have a feeling we won't see Parkinson in a Highlanders jersey again. He has been playing club rugby. There are rumours of two lock spots being available for next year. Oli Haig and Hugo Plummer have been selected ahead of him at lock. Resds like he is on the shelf and his ticket is booked out of Dunedin
It would be a real shame because as we know, when he’s fit and firing he’s as absolute weapon. Unfortunately, staying healthy is the best ability one can have and he doesn’t seem to have that.
Hopefully he isn’t leaving in the off season as I feel if he moved to another franchise he could really kick on to higher honours. Here’s hoping some good competition for the jersey takes him to another level, imo he’s levels above Will Tucker.
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@SouthernMann Exactly. From where I'm sitting, I just see a franchise trying their best to bring some you talent through for the future and good on them. They've had 4 wins and are on the cusp of a finals spot with a bunch of babies running around.
The Blues took years of pain before finally seeing progress with a bunch of kids, and I see the Landers doing the same, and who knows, maybe we'll see a team full of ABs bring back the glory days to Dunedin.
Trust the process and block out the outside noise.
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@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
You'd think with Hurley. Even if there is an early back three injury Gilbert will go on. Looks like he really was the last outside back standing in the squad
im thinking i would have been tempted to have gone 6/2 split just too have bigger bodies and changed gameplan to suit
And it looks like Parkinson, Hicks, Sanders and the unplayed Hayden Michaels were all available
Will be interesting to see how many are playing club on the weekend. Hicks is clearly out of favor but I would have had Paripari ahead of Tucker personally, he could have been massive off the bench. Just hope PPP can get the injuries behind him because there is huge potential there and with Dunshea, Holland and him, that’s a great locking trio moving forward.
I have a feeling we won't see Parkinson in a Highlanders jersey again. He has been playing club rugby. There are rumours of two lock spots being available for next year. Oli Haig and Hugo Plummer have been selected ahead of him at lock. Resds like he is on the shelf and his ticket is booked out of Dunedin
It would be a real shame because as we know, when he’s fit and firing he’s as absolute weapon. Unfortunately, staying healthy is the best ability one can have and he doesn’t seem to have that.
Hopefully he isn’t leaving in the off season as I feel if he moved to another franchise he could really kick on to higher honours. Here’s hoping some good competition for the jersey takes him to another level, imo he’s levels above Will Tucker.
Parkinson quite simply has never recovered from that major knee injury. At the time it was between him and Lord for that ABs spot, they went with Lord - perhaps unfairly at the time, and the weekend Lord made his debut against the USA, Parkinson fucked his knee up playing for Ta$man.
Still limps and lumbers around. He has been absolute shite this season, barring about one half vs someone (can't remember who).
He'll go overseas is my guess, would another franchise want him?
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@frugby said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
You'd think with Hurley. Even if there is an early back three injury Gilbert will go on. Looks like he really was the last outside back standing in the squad
im thinking i would have been tempted to have gone 6/2 split just too have bigger bodies and changed gameplan to suit
And it looks like Parkinson, Hicks, Sanders and the unplayed Hayden Michaels were all available
Will be interesting to see how many are playing club on the weekend. Hicks is clearly out of favor but I would have had Paripari ahead of Tucker personally, he could have been massive off the bench. Just hope PPP can get the injuries behind him because there is huge potential there and with Dunshea, Holland and him, that’s a great locking trio moving forward.
I have a feeling we won't see Parkinson in a Highlanders jersey again. He has been playing club rugby. There are rumours of two lock spots being available for next year. Oli Haig and Hugo Plummer have been selected ahead of him at lock. Resds like he is on the shelf and his ticket is booked out of Dunedin
It would be a real shame because as we know, when he’s fit and firing he’s as absolute weapon. Unfortunately, staying healthy is the best ability one can have and he doesn’t seem to have that.
Hopefully he isn’t leaving in the off season as I feel if he moved to another franchise he could really kick on to higher honours. Here’s hoping some good competition for the jersey takes him to another level, imo he’s levels above Will Tucker.
Parkinson quite simply has never recovered from that major knee injury. At the time it was between him and Lord for that ABs spot, they went with Lord - perhaps unfairly at the time, and the weekend Lord made his debut against the USA, Parkinson fucked his knee up playing for Ta$man.
Still limps and lumbers around. He has been absolute shite this season, barring about one half vs someone (can't remember who).
He'll go overseas is my guess, would another franchise want him?
Yeah too right, hasn’t he had a bad shoulder injury too? Pretty rough luck for both lads. I saw Lord was ruled out for the rest of this season again with another injury so that locking position is wide open for the taking.
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@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
You'd think with Hurley. Even if there is an early back three injury Gilbert will go on. Looks like he really was the last outside back standing in the squad
im thinking i would have been tempted to have gone 6/2 split just too have bigger bodies and changed gameplan to suit
And it looks like Parkinson, Hicks, Sanders and the unplayed Hayden Michaels were all available
Will be interesting to see how many are playing club on the weekend. Hicks is clearly out of favor but I would have had Paripari ahead of Tucker personally, he could have been massive off the bench. Just hope PPP can get the injuries behind him because there is huge potential there and with Dunshea, Holland and him, that’s a great locking trio moving forward.
I have a feeling we won't see Parkinson in a Highlanders jersey again. He has been playing club rugby. There are rumours of two lock spots being available for next year. Oli Haig and Hugo Plummer have been selected ahead of him at lock. Resds like he is on the shelf and his ticket is booked out of Dunedin
It would be a real shame because as we know, when he’s fit and firing he’s as absolute weapon. Unfortunately, staying healthy is the best ability one can have and he doesn’t seem to have that.
Hopefully he isn’t leaving in the off season as I feel if he moved to another franchise he could really kick on to higher honours. Here’s hoping some good competition for the jersey takes him to another level, imo he’s levels above Will Tucker.
I think Parkinson's size is one of hia biggest issues. He is 2.04m and 140kg. Always had the reputation as being a bit lazy. Being that size is never going to help his workrate. Sure, at his best he is better than Will Tucker, a more traditional sized lock. From a supporter's perspective, I'd much rather have Tucker in the defensive line than Parkinson. Tucker moves better than Parkinson and is just a better bread and butter lock.
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@Landers92 yeah, the highlanders socials are giving really regular posts about more and more sections being opened
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@Kiwiwomble not surprised by this at all. I used to work with the Landers social media guy/videographer at WellingtonNZ.com. Not being biased but the Landers have the best coverage compared to any other team in the comp.
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@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Kiwiwomble not surprised by this at all. I used to work with the Landers social media guy/videographer at WellingtonNZ.com. Not being biased but the Landers have the best coverage compared to any other team in the comp.
For a near single operator the digital comms person is doing a great job. Last week I did a bit of a comparison between the Highlanders and the Warriors (viewed as a bit of a gold standard) and the Highlanders were either on a par or just above the Warriors. The only work on is getting some tactics/game/player focused material. The fan engagement and local focus has deveooped exponentionally.
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Is it fair to say the Highlanders have more to gain than the Crusaders this weekend, whereas the Crusaders have more to lose?
A Highlanders win I would say wraps up a quarter-final spot barring a miracle - and you'd still expect them to beat the Drua in Dunedin). With who the Rebels and Drua have left, that would probably have them finishing 6th.
A defeat this weekend, and with a win over the Drua they'd finish on a minimum of 23 (probably more likely 24-25) competition points.
That number is probably more than likely going to be enough to make the 8. Bringing onto the Crusaders having little to gain but more to lose. A win this weekend takes them to 17. Assuming they smoke Moana in the last round, that would be 22, so would leave them needing at least one, but more than likely 2 bonus points from this weekend, a game away in Canberra and at home to the Blues. Still a massive uphill battle based off what we have seen this weekend.
The consequence of defeat, is that their season is over unless the Drua collapse (seems unlikely) and they can win 2/3 v Moana, the Brumbies and Blues or they go 3/3.
The game itself is surely going to be close, so even with a win, Crusaders may only gain three points on the Highlanders, meaning they'd need to beat one of the Blues or Brumbies to go above the Landers. Not impossible, but seemingly improbable.
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@frugby said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Landers92 said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
You'd think with Hurley. Even if there is an early back three injury Gilbert will go on. Looks like he really was the last outside back standing in the squad
im thinking i would have been tempted to have gone 6/2 split just too have bigger bodies and changed gameplan to suit
And it looks like Parkinson, Hicks, Sanders and the unplayed Hayden Michaels were all available
Will be interesting to see how many are playing club on the weekend. Hicks is clearly out of favor but I would have had Paripari ahead of Tucker personally, he could have been massive off the bench. Just hope PPP can get the injuries behind him because there is huge potential there and with Dunshea, Holland and him, that’s a great locking trio moving forward.
I have a feeling we won't see Parkinson in a Highlanders jersey again. He has been playing club rugby. There are rumours of two lock spots being available for next year. Oli Haig and Hugo Plummer have been selected ahead of him at lock. Resds like he is on the shelf and his ticket is booked out of Dunedin
It would be a real shame because as we know, when he’s fit and firing he’s as absolute weapon. Unfortunately, staying healthy is the best ability one can have and he doesn’t seem to have that.
Hopefully he isn’t leaving in the off season as I feel if he moved to another franchise he could really kick on to higher honours. Here’s hoping some good competition for the jersey takes him to another level, imo he’s levels above Will Tucker.
Parkinson quite simply has never recovered from that major knee injury. At the time it was between him and Lord for that ABs spot, they went with Lord - perhaps unfairly at the time, and the weekend Lord made his debut against the USA, Parkinson fucked his knee up playing for Ta$man.
Still limps and lumbers around. He has been absolute shite this season, barring about one half vs someone (can't remember who).
He'll go overseas is my guess, would another franchise want him?
I know rugby players hate the knife (who doesn’t) but both PPP and Lord need to get their knees properly fixed if they want to play at top level.
Better to write off rest of year, get the rehab in and by 2025 they’ll be fully rehabilitated and rearing to go?!