Black Caps v South Africa

[Chris]

Some decent Cricketers in that squad
Neil Brand,Ruan De Swardt,Duanne Olivier,Clyde Fourtuin,Dane Peterson all very good players.

[mikedogz]

@mikedogz said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/tangiwai-shield-to-be-unveiled/?fbclid=IwAR1DHAXwLGStwGhoErsz5NqYMTFs331X7STTxYso5V1sXdpjA7jPnyx5yyU

Tangiwai - A Love Story | Television | NZ On Screen

Tangiwai - A Love Story - Christmas Eve 1953: Cricketer Bob Blair (Ryan O'Kane) is in South Africa, days away from batting for New Zealand. His fiancée Nerissa Love (Maddigan's Quest's Rose McIver) is boarding an ill-fated train, which in this excerpt will plunge into the Whangaehu River at...

[booboo]

@mikedogz said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/tangiwai-shield-to-be-unveiled/?fbclid=IwAR1DHAXwLGStwGhoErsz5NqYMTFs331X7STTxYso5V1sXdpjA7jPnyx5yyU

Uber cool trophy. Who doesn't want to win that.

[Bovidae]

It's quite amazing that Bob Blair (91) is the only living player from that 1953 test, and his older brother Jim is still going too. Good genes in that family.

[ploughboy]

@Bovidae is that the jim blair the masters javalin thrower

[Bovidae]

@ploughboy said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@Bovidae is that the jim blair the masters javalin thrower

Yes. I was reading this article today.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350165148/92-year-old-kiwi-athlete-who-has-no-intention-stopping

[Rapido]

@Bovidae said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

It's quite amazing that Bob Blair (91) is the only living player from that 1953 test, and his older brother Jim is still going too. Good genes in that family.

I believe he's the current oldest living blackcap.

[MN5]

Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.

I wonder what the starting team will be ?

I’m thinking…..

Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )

…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….

Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )

Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?

[booboo]

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.

I wonder what the starting team will be ?

I’m thinking…..

Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )

…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….

Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )

Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?

I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.

4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk bat

Unfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.

[MN5]

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.

I wonder what the starting team will be ?

I’m thinking…..

Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )

…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….

Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )

Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?

I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.

4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk bat

Unfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.

Cool. If we agree on all that does Mitchell go up a spot or continue at five ?

Funny to think he started at seven as a bit of an all rounder. Can’t remember the last time he turned the arm over.

[booboo]

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.

I wonder what the starting team will be ?

I’m thinking…..

Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )

…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….

Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )

Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?

I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.

4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk bat

Unfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.

Cool. If we agree on all that does Mitchell go up a spot or continue at five ?

Am thinking Ravindra at 4.
Mitch 5
Phillips 6
Blundell 7

[booboo]

Which will probably end up
Mitch 4
Blundell 5
Phillips 6
Santner 7 ...

[MN5]

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.

I wonder what the starting team will be ?

I’m thinking…..

Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )

…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….

Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )

Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?

I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.

4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk bat

Unfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.

Cool. If we agree on all that does Mitchell go up a spot or continue at five ?

Am thinking Ravindra at 4.
Mitch 5
Phillips 6
Blundell 7

I get the feeling Santner may get the nod, possibly at the expense of Phillips. I hope I’m wrong cos then the batting would be Mitch/Ravindra, Blundell, Santner which already looks much weaker.

[canefan]

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.

I wonder what the starting team will be ?

I’m thinking…..

Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )

…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….

Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )

Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?

I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.

4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk bat

Unfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.

Cool. If we agree on all that does Mitchell go up a spot or continue at five ?

Am thinking Ravindra at 4.
Mitch 5
Phillips 6
Blundell 7

I get the feeling Santner may get the nod, possibly at the expense of Phillips. I hope I’m wrong cos then the batting would be Mitch/Ravindra, Blundell, Santner which already looks much weaker.

Ugh

[MN5]

@canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.

I wonder what the starting team will be ?

I’m thinking…..

Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )

…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….

Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )

Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?

I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.

4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk bat

Unfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.

Cool. If we agree on all that does Mitchell go up a spot or continue at five ?

Am thinking Ravindra at 4.
Mitch 5
Phillips 6
Blundell 7

I get the feeling Santner may get the nod, possibly at the expense of Phillips. I hope I’m wrong cos then the batting would be Mitch/Ravindra, Blundell, Santner which already looks much weaker.

Ugh

That’s actually a better response than paragraph upon paragraph of statistics, anecdotes and analysis.

Top ferning bro.

[canefan]

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.

I wonder what the starting team will be ?

I’m thinking…..

Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )

…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….

Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )

Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?

I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.

4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk bat

Unfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.

Cool. If we agree on all that does Mitchell go up a spot or continue at five ?

Am thinking Ravindra at 4.
Mitch 5
Phillips 6
Blundell 7

I get the feeling Santner may get the nod, possibly at the expense of Phillips. I hope I’m wrong cos then the batting would be Mitch/Ravindra, Blundell, Santner which already looks much weaker.

Ugh

That’s actually a better response than paragraph upon paragraph of statistics, anecdotes and analysis.

Top ferning bro.

Considering how much burn our spinners get at home, basically as a last resort or to spell the seamers, I don't see why we don't just use Ravindra and Phillips

[MN5]

@canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.

I wonder what the starting team will be ?

I’m thinking…..

Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )

…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….

Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )

Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?

I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.

4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk bat

Unfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.

Cool. If we agree on all that does Mitchell go up a spot or continue at five ?

Am thinking Ravindra at 4.
Mitch 5
Phillips 6
Blundell 7

I get the feeling Santner may get the nod, possibly at the expense of Phillips. I hope I’m wrong cos then the batting would be Mitch/Ravindra, Blundell, Santner which already looks much weaker.

Ugh

That’s actually a better response than paragraph upon paragraph of statistics, anecdotes and analysis.

Top ferning bro.

Considering how much burn out spinners get at home, basically as a last resort or to spell the seamers, I don't see why we don't just use Ravindra and Phillips

Yep, may as well have them bowl a bit and not get wickets than an actual front liner.

[Canes4life]

This article has stated Ravindra is batting at 4.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350167365/rachin-ravindra-itching-second-crack-test-cricket-versus-south-africa

[canefan]

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.

I wonder what the starting team will be ?

I’m thinking…..

Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )

…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….

Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )

Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?

I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.

4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk bat

Unfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.

Cool. If we agree on all that does Mitchell go up a spot or continue at five ?

Am thinking Ravindra at 4.
Mitch 5
Phillips 6
Blundell 7

I get the feeling Santner may get the nod, possibly at the expense of Phillips. I hope I’m wrong cos then the batting would be Mitch/Ravindra, Blundell, Santner which already looks much weaker.

Ugh

That’s actually a better response than paragraph upon paragraph of statistics, anecdotes and analysis.

Top ferning bro.

Considering how much burn out spinners get at home, basically as a last resort or to spell the seamers, I don't see why we don't just use Ravindra and Phillips

Yep, may as well have them bowl a bit and not get wickets than an actual front liner.

In theory at least we get runs in return. And Phillips seems to have a knack of picking up a wicket or too

[nzzp]

@canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

I don't see why we don't just use Ravindra and Phillips

did their partnership win us that test in Bangladesh? We have to pick them surely