Black Caps v South Africa
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@Duluth said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Anyone have an opinion on O'Rourke? How fast is he? Does he look like a long term option?
(he is only in for the second test, I'm not sure he will play at all)
I think he's definitely a long term option.
He's been looking close to test quality this season, IMO.
He was bowling mid 130ks in the ODIs. That is about 5kph slower than I thought he would have been based on watching him in domestics. But I recall one of this wicket-taking deliveries was 142 or 143 which is only time I saw hime break 140 according to the radar. But his rythym and effort levels look like that 135k appears 'effortless' and therefore can assume the consistency should be high (going forward). Watching him back in the U19s he used to fall over quite a lot after delivery (like Sears) with the amount of effort he seemed to be putting in to his pace.
The strength for O'Rourke is that his stock ball looks like it will be consistently threatening in test cricket. Tall and at 135k+, if you are putting that in the right areas you are going to be threatening. He doesn't have the more extreme elements of some of his comtemporaries challenging for upcoming spots (the inswinger of Foulkes, varieties of Smith, or top end pace of Sears). His is front-on bowling action and any swing he gets is inswing, so will be more threatening to left handers, especially when he comes around wicket,
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@Rapido said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
He was bowling mid 130ks in the ODIs.
Yeah, I thought he'd be quicker too given his height. We need to see more bowlers in that 140-145 kmph range. I was surprised that Duffy was bowling 140+ in those ODIs.
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Proteas test squad against New Zealand
Neil Brand (captain, Momentum Multiply Titans), David Bedingham (Western Province), Ruan de Swardt (North West Dragons), Clyde Fortuin (Gbets Rocks), Zubayr Hamza (DP World Lions), Edward Moore (Western Province), Tshepo Moreki (DP World Lions), Mihlali Mpongwana (Western Province), Duanne Olivier (DP World Lions), Dane Paterson (Western Province), Keegan Petersen (Gbets Rocks), Dane Piedt (ITEC Knights), Raynard van Tonder (North West Dragons), Shaun von Berg (Gbets Rocks) and Khaya Zondo (Hollywoodbets Dolphins).
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@OomPB said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Proteas test squad against New Zealand
Neil Brand (captain, Momentum Multiply Titans), David Bedingham (Western Province), Ruan de Swardt (North West Dragons), Clyde Fortuin (Gbets Rocks), Zubayr Hamza (DP World Lions), Edward Moore (Western Province), Tshepo Moreki (DP World Lions), Mihlali Mpongwana (Western Province), Duanne Olivier (DP World Lions), Dane Paterson (Western Province), Keegan Petersen (Gbets Rocks), Dane Piedt (ITEC Knights), Raynard van Tonder (North West Dragons), Shaun von Berg (Gbets Rocks) and Khaya Zondo (Hollywoodbets Dolphins).
Not so much a “whos’ who” but more of a “who is that?”
Still, the Windies team of relative no names humbled Oz so we’d best be careful in this series.
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@mikedogz said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
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Tangiwai - A Love Story - Christmas Eve 1953: Cricketer Bob Blair (Ryan O'Kane) is in South Africa, days away from batting for New Zealand. His fiancée Nerissa Love (Maddigan's Quest's Rose McIver) is boarding an ill-fated train, which in this excerpt will plunge into the Whangaehu River at...
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@ploughboy said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@Bovidae is that the jim blair the masters javalin thrower
Yes. I was reading this article today.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350165148/92-year-old-kiwi-athlete-who-has-no-intention-stopping
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
It's quite amazing that Bob Blair (91) is the only living player from that 1953 test, and his older brother Jim is still going too. Good genes in that family.
I believe he's the current oldest living blackcap.
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Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.
I wonder what the starting team will be ?
I’m thinking…..
Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….
Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.
I wonder what the starting team will be ?
I’m thinking…..
Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….
Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?
I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.
4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk batUnfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.
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@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.
I wonder what the starting team will be ?
I’m thinking…..
Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….
Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?
I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.
4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk batUnfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.
Cool. If we agree on all that does Mitchell go up a spot or continue at five ?
Funny to think he started at seven as a bit of an all rounder. Can’t remember the last time he turned the arm over.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@booboo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
Woohoo, Test cricket starting again tomorrow.
I wonder what the starting team will be ?
I’m thinking…..
Latham ( always scores at home )
Conway ( recent form has been alarming though )
KW ( no brainer )…..then it gets a bit interesting. Perhaps….
Mitchell ( does he slot up one ? )
Ravindra ( or does he play four ? )
Blundell ( proven performer )
Phillips ( statistically the greatest all rounder of all time )
Jamieson ( no brainer )
Southee ( captain )
Henry ( better than his stats suggest )
Wags ( love Wags )Does Santners recent favour in the longer form warrant a call up ?
I like your XI. There's already two basically adequate spinners in there. Don't need to weaken the batting or the seam attack to fit Satnav in.
4+1 Seamers
2 ok spinners
6 bat + wk batUnfortunately won't be watching. Dumped Foxtel after years. May get Kayo (assume it's on there) for the Aussie tests.
Cool. If we agree on all that does Mitchell go up a spot or continue at five ?
Am thinking Ravindra at 4.
Mitch 5
Phillips 6
Blundell 7
