Quay Park stadium for Auckland?
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@Duluth said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
but I think we'll just wind up with Eden Park doing what it does and being sub-par for both rugby and cricket
Move cricket somewhere else. Build a new North stand closer to the pitch.
That's a good idea. If we have to have Eden Park, which I suspect and has been reported last week that that is what the Council will decide to do.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Duluth a bigger version of hagley park, proper sized pitch with some grass for families on test days and a larger pavilion type stand no more than half the rest of the ground
Victoria Park was suggested by a fan group a decade ago but I think Auckland cricket opposed it or something
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@Auckman said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Duluth a bigger version of hagley park, proper sized pitch with some grass for families on test days and a larger pavilion type stand no more than half the rest of the ground
Victoria Park was suggested by a fan group a decade ago but I think Auckland cricket opposed it or something
There is nowhere in Auckland that doesn't have opposition.
Eden Park no 1 - too big
No 2 - ground too small, facilities don't meet test cricket, adjacent to a street
Colin Maiden - too far away
Anywhere on the north shore - isn't that a beach? Where is it? I needed Google
Western Springs - too expensive, floods
Vic Park - heavily contaminated, floods, too near motorways, I dunno, can't use it enough for domestic cricket? Existing usage maybe?I love the Vic Park concept for many reasons - but honestly as long as people make a sensible decision we should just do something. You do not need a full size stadium. Hagley should be the exemplar - simple, limited facilities and sized well for test matches.
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@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Auckman said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@Duluth a bigger version of hagley park, proper sized pitch with some grass for families on test days and a larger pavilion type stand no more than half the rest of the ground
Victoria Park was suggested by a fan group a decade ago but I think Auckland cricket opposed it or something
There is nowhere in Auckland that doesn't have opposition.
Eden Park no 1 - too big
No 2 - ground too small, facilities don't meet test cricket, adjacent to a street
Colin Maiden - too far away
Anywhere on the north shore - isn't that a beach? Where is it? I needed Google
Western Springs - too expensive, floods
Vic Park - heavily contaminated, floods, too near motorways, I dunno, can't use it enough for domestic cricket? Existing usage maybe?I love the Vic Park concept for many reasons - but honestly as long as people make a sensible decision we should just do something. You do not need a full size stadium. Hagley should be the exemplar - simple, limited facilities and sized well for test matches.
It's just a shit show. Someone needed to front up and make the decision prior to RWC11 when they had the chance
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@canefan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
It's just a shit show. Someone needed to front up and make the decision prior to RWC11 when they had the chance
Remember when we got offered a taxpayer funded stadium on the waterfront for free....????
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@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@canefan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
It's just a shit show. Someone needed to front up and make the decision prior to RWC11 when they had the chance
Remember when we got offered a taxpayer funded stadium on the waterfront for free....????
Auckland is riddled with self interest. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth and saying no thanks
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@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@canefan friendly reminder it was Mike Lee who didn't want to lose Ports land on behalf of the ARC.
Yes. Mike Lee (chair of the then ARC) - who was promoting the then ARC-owned Mt Smart as the answer to Auckland's stadium issues.
The mayor of Auckland (Sanitarium guy, I forgot his name) and the Auckland City Council actually voted yes to the stadium.
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@Auckman said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@canefan friendly reminder it was Mike Lee who didn't want to lose Ports land on behalf of the ARC.
Yes. Mike Lee (chair of the then ARC) - who was promoting the then ARC-owned Mt Smart as the answer to Auckland's stadium issues.
The mayor of Auckland (Sanitarium guy, I forgot his name) and the Auckland City Council actually voted yes to the stadium.
and this
In a 5-hour meeting on the night of 23 November, the Auckland City Council gave support to the waterfront proposal by a 13–7 vote. However they qualified their assent by wanting the stadium to be "substantially east" of the Marsden Wharf/Captain Cook location preferred by the government, cutting more deeply into port lands, but also keeping views from Britomart unobstructed.[10]
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I wasn't a fan of the proposed 2011 stadium and think the Council's caveat was justified.
There's a reason images of stadia are always of a match night, during the day they're all monolithic 13 story high visual barriers. Not at all pleasing to the eye - and they are the good ones. I shudder to think what Auckland would have got.
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@Auckman said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@canefan friendly reminder it was Mike Lee who didn't want to lose Ports land on behalf of the ARC.
Yes. Mike Lee (chair of the then ARC) - who was promoting the then ARC-owned Mt Smart as the answer to Auckland's stadium issues.
The mayor of Auckland (Sanitarium guy, I forgot his name) and the Auckland City Council actually voted yes to the stadium.
Phil Goff?
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Democracy has it's limitations and it seems stadiums in NZ is one of them.
IF something dramatic is to be done, then a decision needs to be done, it needs to be stuck by & charged head on through the bullshit that accompanies it.
But we all know it won't happen. Expect another 200mill thrown at Eden Park for something that looks like a dogs breakfast. Ethyl will be happy though.
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@MajorRage said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
Democracy has it's limitations and it seems stadiums in NZ is one of them.
IF something dramatic is to be done, then a decision needs to be done, it needs to be stuck by & charged head on through the bullshit that accompanies it.
But we all know it won't happen. Expect another 200mill thrown at Eden Park for something that looks like a dogs breakfast. Ethyl will be happy though.
The council at the time pushed the Caketin through. Courage and determination is required
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@MajorRage Auckland is a mess. Typically Kiwi that we have no cohesive plan for the city's sports grounds. We have a bunch of middling venues that serve similar purpose, but we don't have an international class cricket or rugby code ground
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I've whined about this for years ... cricket & rugby should never be played in the same stadium, they are completely different sports with different sized fields. Rugby field is aournd 70 metres wide. A proper sized cricket is about double that.
Although I'm very pro the waterfront / downtown idea, I get that the logistics and cost make that a tough sell. But at least commit to making Eden Park a rugby only ground ....
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@MajorRage said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
But at least commit to making Eden Park a rugby only ground ....
...half owned by Auckland Cricket. who have been propped up for years by the income from Rugby. Can't see it.
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@canefan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
@MajorRage Auckland is a mess. Typically Kiwi that we have no cohesive plan for the city's sports grounds. We have a bunch of middling venues that serve similar purpose, but we don't have an international class cricket or rugby code ground
There are vested interests on Council who are fanatical Eden Park supporters. Yet one of the proposals (the sunken stadium one) proposes that the Eden Park Trust board is made the owners or majority shareholders of the new stadium (in exchange for selling off their land to pay for the new stadium). Nope, they still won’t budge. Eden park is their baby.
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