All Blacks 2024
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I'd rather they just have Plummer and Narawa cover 15 than Perofeta. Plummer is excellent under the high ball
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I'd hope not Perofeta - there's something about failing to secure your spot as a 1st 5 and going back to 15 and being rewarded with an AB spot that doesn't fit well with me.
Maybe going for a Perofeta/Plummer combination? Or they just wern't impressed by Love during the season.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'd rather they just have Plummer and Narawa cover 15 than Perofeta. Plummer is excellent under the high ball
agreed
plummer easily in top 3 10shas to be a 15 picked to backup BB or start ,for me not all of CC , MT SR and EN can be picked
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Thinking about heading out to Sydney Airport just to see if one of you report it here that I'm on the move
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'd hope not Perofeta - there's something about failing to secure your spot as a 1st 5 and going back to 15 and being rewarded with an AB spot that doesn't fit well with me.
Maybe going for a Perofeta/Plummer combination? Or they just wern't impressed by Love during the season.
Love is the best fullback in the country under the high-ball, I can't remember him dropping a ball this year. So when McDonald comes on TV and says they are largely picking their back three based on their ability in the air shows me that he's full of shit and would rather just revert to guys he's worked with before / doesn't have the balls to drop Beauden, who in my view should only be in the ABs as a 10.
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I'm assuming it was always going to be Dmac at 10 and BB at 15 (and probably the back-up 1st 5 as well).
Everyone else was fighting for the 3rd first 5 or back up FB spot.
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I'm a huge Ruben Love fan but a few points to consider
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his knee didn't look 100% towards the end of the season. He was gimpy
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his best form came at the start-middle of Super Rugby rather than the end - there were a couple of big games he didn't play his best - I presume part of that was the injury.
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the likelihood of Beauden not starting at 15 in a series with under 2 weeks build-up is very low so I'm not sure how much game time would get anyway.
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Blackadder, actually don't think he has made the cut ?.whats the info
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm assuming it was always going to be Dmac at 10 and BB at 15 (and probably the back-up 1st 5 as well).
Everyone else was fighting for the 3rd first 5 or back up FB spot.
Why though? Why should Beauden (who's shown f all form as a fullback over the last few years) automatically be selected? This is why the ABs haven't gone anywhere in the last few years, it's because of backward selections like this. Being innovative is what kept us at the top of the pile, we haven't been there for a long time because we keep favouring certain players. Beauden peaked 7-8 years ago, he's not the player that he used to be so why persist with him...
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@Canes4life On Beauden 4 year contract must mean he's a done deal
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm assuming it was always going to be Dmac at 10 and BB at 15 (and probably the back-up 1st 5 as well).
Everyone else was fighting for the 3rd first 5 or back up FB spot.
Why though? Why should Beauden (who's shown f all form as a fullback over the last few years) automatically be selected? This is why the ABs haven't gone anywhere in the last few years, it's because of backward selections like this. Being innovative is what kept us at the top of the pile, we haven't been there for a long time because we keep favouring certain players. Beauden peaked 7-8 years ago, he's not the player that he used to be so why persist with him...
Now do the same with Blackadder and Akira, Havilli and Lam, Bell and literally anybody else.
And the big one for back to the future is TJ, his time has gone, put in the young guys.
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@Kirwan why can't we just pick the best players? If Cane gets in it will be a joke, if Havili gets in it will be a joke, Blackadder shouldn't be there because he actually needs to play consistently to show he's still up there. For me TJ only gets selected because Roigard is still out. Once he comes back I'd assume TJ will be dropped. Another guy we need to move on from.
I'd argue Proctor, Sotutu, Lam and Love were some of the highest performing players in super this year and probably couldn't have done more to warrant selection. If all of them miss out it will be bloody disappointing.
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Devlin's oil is that Pasilio Tosi is in
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Devlin's oil is that Pasilio Tosi is in
The Southland no8 that now plays prop?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Devlin's oil is that Pasilio Tosi is in
The Southland no8 that now plays prop?
That's him! That Southland tried to push to the Landers as a prop. Our management, went, don't be stupid. He's a big bloody 8
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Canes4lifereplied to SouthernMann on 24 Jun 2024, 02:17 last edited by Canes4life 24 Jun 2024, 02:18
@SouthernMann very interesting, to be fair though the improvement he's shown in the last year has been huge. If he works with better coaches he could be a beast. Again though? Who does he come in for? Lomax and Newell are surely locks, unless they go for 6 props.
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5.30 can't come soon enough
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How many names have been mentioned now? 60?
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
How many names have been mentioned now? 60?
We may aswell mention every starting player in Super at this rate.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
How many names have been mentioned now? 60?
I'd like to announce I've been selected on the wing. All Blacks are well and truely fucked.
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Instead of a 32 man squad it's 30 x 2 man squad
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The squad that earned their place and the Cantabs
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Why would players in the squad be flying to Christchurch? Presumably the camp is in Auckland, and in any case I thought they weren't meeting until midweek.
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@Canes4life be the slug if true , but Devlin bloody hell
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@HLD2023Champions said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Anyone predicting any other Highlanders but EDG to make the squad?
Fakatava the only other possibility. EDG and Fakatava were the only two present at last week's camp.
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pub quiz: which national / international team has Scott Robertson coached previously? clue: depending on your quibble I count 3. And one isn't well known but I doubt is one any other AB coach has coached.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Why would players in the squad be flying to Christchurch? Presumably the camp is in Auckland, and in any case I thought they weren't meeting until midweek.
Usually new ABs are at the AB announcements for interviews/photos
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@HLD2023Champions possibly Mitchell P Dunshea, heard from one of my sources that he’d been lurking around the streets of Tauranga last week
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@fruggerby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@HLD2023Champions possibly Mitchell P Dunshea, heard from one of my sources that he’d been lurking around the streets of Tauranga last week
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Why would players in the squad be flying to Christchurch? Presumably the camp is in Auckland, and in any case I thought they weren't meeting until midweek.
Connor Garden-Bachop’s funeral is in Christchurch today. I think a lot of people are getting their wires crossed.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
So, last year the ABs had a rather bad run with cards. Red against SA, two Yellows against France, then Red again against SA. What's the plan to fix this?
(Of course, Kolisi hit Savea head to head, and maybe in the air from a lineout take - Barnes is an absolute fuckwit.)
TMO and the in-room WR Commisars protecting the professional victims and Rugby Jesus from fair and unbiased officiating? ... fair play to Barnesy he did refer it.
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Funeral is at Linwood rugby club tomorrow at 2pm.
The All blacks will be meeting and training in Wellington. -
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Funeral is at Linwood rugby club tomorrow at 2pm.
The All blacks will be meeting and training in Wellington.Oh I was told it was today. Maybe I have my wires crossed😂😂 close enough, could still explain why players are supposed flying into Christchurch according to big George.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
How many names have been mentioned now? 60?
Props:
de Groot
Williams
Newell
Bower
Lomax
Numia
Tosi
Dyer
Tu'ungafasi
Ta'avao
Renata
(11)Hookers:
Taylor
McAllister
Bell
Aumua
Taukei'aho
Thompson
Riccitelli
(7)Locks:
Dunshea
S Barrett
Hannah
Strange
Walker-Leawere
Delaney
Vaa'i
Lord
Tuipulotu
Darry
(10)Loose Forwards:
Haig
Harmon
Lio-Willie
Blackadder
Grace
Iose
Savea
Lakai
Finau
Jacobson
Sititi
Cane
Sotutu
A Ioane
Papalii
(15)(43 Forwards)
Halfbacks:
Fakatava
Hotham
Perenara
Ratima
Christie
Funaki
(6)First Fives:
McKenzie
B Barrett
Perofeta
Plummer
(4)Midfielders:
Havili
McLeod
J Barrett
Procter
Lienert-Brown
Tupaea
Rona
Pohipi
Lam
R Ioane
(10)Outside Backs:
Nareki
Tavatavanawai
Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens
Fihaki
Reece
Love
Stevenson
Nanai-Seturo
Narawa
Clarke
Telea
Z Sullivan
(12)(32 Backs)
So unless I have missed anyone, 75 different players have had a shout.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
How many names have been mentioned now? 60?
Props:
de Groot
Williams
Newell
Bower
Lomax
Numia
Tosi
Dyer
Tu'ungafasi
Ta'avao
Renata
(11)Hookers:
Taylor
McAllister
Bell
Aumua
Taukei'aho
Thompson
Riccitelli
(7)Locks:
Dunshea
S Barrett
Hannah
Strange
Walker-Leawere
Delaney
Vaa'i
Lord
Tuipulotu
Darry
(10)Loose Forwards:
Haig
Harmon
Lio-Willie
Blackadder
Grace
Iose
Savea
Lakai
Finau
Jacobson
Sititi
Cane
Sotutu
A Ioane
Papalii
(15)(43 Forwards)
Halfbacks:
Fakatava
Hotham
Perenara
Ratima
Christie
Funaki
(6)First Fives:
McKenzie
B Barrett
Perofeta
Plummer
(4)Midfielders:
Havili
McLeod
J Barrett
Procter
Lienert-Brown
Tupaea
Rona
Pohipi
Lam
R Ioane
(10)Outside Backs:
Nareki
Tavatavanawai
Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens
Fihaki
Reece
Love
Stevenson
Nanai-Seturo
Narawa
Clarke
Telea
Z Sullivan
(12)(32 Backs)
So unless I have missed anyone, 75 different players have had a shout.
Hahaha this is outstanding chat. You win for today mate well played.
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@chchfanatic
Enough with your facts.
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@chchfanatic
Enough with your facts.
I need more mindless speculation and half-truths.Lol…
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
How many names have been mentioned now? 60?
Props:
de Groot
Williams
Newell
Bower
Lomax
Numia
Tosi
Dyer
Tu'ungafasi
Ta'avao
Renata
(11)Hookers:
Taylor
McAllister
Bell
Aumua
Taukei'aho
Thompson
Riccitelli
(7)Locks:
Dunshea
S Barrett
Hannah
Strange
Walker-Leawere
Delaney
Vaa'i
Lord
Tuipulotu
Darry
(10)Loose Forwards:
Haig
Harmon
Lio-Willie
Blackadder
Grace
Iose
Savea
Lakai
Finau
Jacobson
Sititi
Cane
Sotutu
A Ioane
Papalii
(15)(43 Forwards)
Halfbacks:
Fakatava
Hotham
Perenara
Ratima
Christie
Funaki
(6)First Fives:
McKenzie
B Barrett
Perofeta
Plummer
(4)Midfielders:
Havili
McLeod
J Barrett
Procter
Lienert-Brown
Tupaea
Rona
Pohipi
Lam
R Ioane
(10)Outside Backs:
Nareki
Tavatavanawai
Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens
Fihaki
Reece
Love
Stevenson
Nanai-Seturo
Narawa
Clarke
Telea
Z Sullivan
(12)(32 Backs)
So unless I have missed anyone, 75 different players have had a shout.
Let's just pick them all. If we start 30 players instead of 15 our chances of winning will sky rocket.
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@Canes4life Jokes aside, it shows how tough these teams are to pick. You could probably make a reasonable argument for nearly any one of those players to be included barring the odd rogue one.
There isn't a lot between a lot of those players either, and by the halo effect, some of these guys will get 50+ caps, and others will get 0. It really is brutal.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life Jokes aside, it shows how tough these teams are to pick. You could probably make a reasonable argument for nearly any one of those players to be included barring the odd rogue one.
There isn't a lot between a lot of those players either, and by the halo effect, some of these guys will get 50+ caps, and others will get 0. It really is brutal.
We are going to have a very strong AB XV that's for sure.
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