Wellington v Hawkes (RS)
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im in the camp of what happens to these trophies in between games is a bit of the mystique of them, the unsubstantiated stories and urban legends, Dad worked for Air NZ in the 90's as i was lucky enough to have the ranfurly shield, NPC Div 1 trophy and the bledisloe stashed under my bed one night because they came into town on a late flight....theyve obviously be restored since then but i can tell you they we're pretty fucked up back then, the rugby ball on the lid of the bledisloe was super dented and bent over
BUT...dont bloody take photos and shit (our court sessions you have to leave your phones), the shield should have turned up for the first challenge next year looking all shiny and nothing but a rumor that "something" went down in the off season
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@canefan said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):
Wow there are some real zingers on here. HB have poor form in this regard, after all they provided the only pitch invaders at a Wahs game that I can recall ever.
Yeah but 12 people got arrested in Wellington at the Warriors game.
I know cos @Stargazer said so.
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@MN5 no need to worry about any at hurricanes games they would require fans at the games.
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@Magpie_in_aus said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):
@MN5 no need to worry about any at hurricanes games they would require fans at the games.
Harsh but true.
I’m one of the worst culprits. I only went once this year and that was cos I got a free ticket.
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"@MN5 ruins rugby"....i can see the headline now
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@Kiwiwomble said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):
"@MN5 ruins rugby"....i can see the headline now
Please read my post above.
Only if I got a free ticket.
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@Virgil said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):
Thats a clean break, it would have been a shoddy repair job to begin with. Dropping it on a hard surface just broke open where it was previously apart and repaired.
Im not vested in this, i just work with wood and see this all the time...carry on.
Edit: i mean wood breakages, not Coke.
carry on again
I thought the recent repair was with a whole new lump of wood? (i.e., not re-splitting a previous break)
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"Yes, we are,’’ Lancaster said. “It is very much about establishing what has gone on, get the shield back to Wellington so we can lay eyes on it and understand exactly what the nature of the damage is and then we will go from there.’’
Yes it should go back to Wellington
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@Machpants said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):
"Yes, we are,’’ Lancaster said. “It is very much about establishing what has gone on, get the shield back to Wellington so we can lay eyes on it and understand exactly what the nature of the damage is and then we will go from there.’’
Yes it should go back to Wellington
What, so James O'Reilly can use it to add to his list of trophies he has been fingered for using for illegal purposes?
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@Virgil said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):
Thats a clean break, it would have been a shoddy repair job to begin with. Dropping it on a hard surface just broke open where it was previously apart and repaired.
Im not vested in this, i just work with wood and see this all the time...carry on.
Edit: i mean wood breakages, not Coke.
carry on again
Wasn't a repair job, the wood was brand new! They had replaced it.
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@Higgins said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):
@Machpants said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):
"Yes, we are,’’ Lancaster said. “It is very much about establishing what has gone on, get the shield back to Wellington so we can lay eyes on it and understand exactly what the nature of the damage is and then we will go from there.’’
Yes it should go back to Wellington
What, so James O'Reilly can use it to add to his list of trophies he has been fingered for using for illegal purposes?
At least he would clean up the white powder
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And the other things these fluffybunnies have done? There will be a whole set of rules for any new holders because of this shit! And wouldn't it of been nice for Hawkes Bay to be able to have it on display this week as a lead in to the QFs?
And to top it off another one of the idiots decided to drive pissed into someone's fence and has been charged with drink driving !!!
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@Dan54 said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):
And the other things these fluffybunnies have done? There will be a whole set of rules for any new holders because of this shit! And wouldn't it of been nice for Hawkes Bay to be able to have it on display this week as a lead in to the QFs?
And to top it off another one of the idiots decided to drive pissed into someone's fence and has been charged with drink driving !!!
Rule one: Don’t break the shield.
I’d have thought this would be a given but some unions might need it in writing.
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@Higgins check out the whataboutery from Brad!
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From Jason Pine on FB
The damage done to the Ranfurly Shield.
Couple of points ...
Firstly ... how dumb do you have to be to share this stuff on social media?
Who took the video and the photos, then thought it'd be a good idea to put them online?
I'm at a loss to explain why you would think that's a good idea.
To the Shield itself ... and what happened to it...
The alleged drug-taking doesn't actually bother me that much.
There are plenty of stories about what's allegedly been done on and around the Ranfurly Shield over the years.
Many of those things happened in the days well before social media and cameras on every phone.
The decision by someone to do drugs, let alone off the Ranfurly Shield, is perhaps worthy of wider discussion, but it's not the big issue here for me.
The main issue is the damage.
The Shield has suffered minor damage in the past ... and needed some reasonably significant restoration over the last 12 months to repair a few things.
But it has never been BROKEN IN HALF.
We've all seen the Ranfurly Shield ... many of us have held it up for a photo at promotional events and things like that.
The Shield is a decent hunk of wood.
It feels to me like you'd have to try really hard to snap it in half.
In fact, James Dwan - whose company Tri-Peek helped replace the original piece of wood with a new solid piece of oak this year - says the new version of the shield is three to four times thicker than the original.
He says that means it would require a lot of force to break.
When this all came to light yesterday, those at Hawke's Bay Rugby insisted it was an accident ... and that it had been dropped on a concrete floor by mistake.
If they stick to their story (which they are), we probably have to believe it.
But accidents tend to happen more often when people have had a bit to drink, or (allegedly) had a bit of the other stuff.
I'm all for celebrating success ... and winning the Ranfurly Shield is still a big deal for provincial rugby players ... and worthy of celebration.
But before you get started on the celebrations, make a plan.
And at the very least, keep the Ranfurly Shield out of harm's way.
Give the Shield a minder; someone who doesn't drink, for example, or a younger squad member who has to earn his stripes ... or someone who's put in charge of keeping the Shield away from those who are celebrating the hardest, so that accidents like this don't happen.
It's like having a sober driver ... just some sort of plan to make sure that when everyone wakes up in the morning, the Shield looks the same as when it was handed over.
The biggest thing for me though is the underlying disrespect which led to this happening.
The Ranfurly Shield should ... and does ... mean something significant.
Generations of rugby players have tried ... successfully and unsuccessfully ... to win it and to keep it.
It's without doubt the most famous trophy in NZ sport.
And whoever was around it on Saturday night treated it like it was nothing more than a piece of wood ... and with utter contempt.
They were laughing.
They were laughing about breaking one of the most treasured sporting trophies in our national game.
That completely disrespects its history ... and everyone who has been part of its legacy.
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