RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga
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Ireland too good and Tonga were gassed at the end. Like the Tonga of old really, some big hits but slow to get up off the ground, and some massive errors.
Irrelevant but have got to say it, ABs won't get past Ireland. -
@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
I only just woke up and missed the game. Do we have a chance against these guys?
Based on what we have delivered in the last 3 games... I wouldn't be putting the mortgage on it - Irish forwards are a tight unit that show urgency and to large degrees accuracy that we just haven't come close too.
Plus their backs run effective lines and don't have to deal with multiple playmakers and bullshit cross kicks etc.
The other glaring gap would be the kicking accuracy and chasing ...... we're not even close on that one -
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Do have any chance against Ireland your discipline has to be top notch. Make them gain territory don’t hand it to them.
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@Mattasaurus That's a worry. They have had very few injuries too compared to the other main contenders. The stars may be aligning for them this year.
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
Do have any chance against Ireland your discipline has to be top notch. Make them gain territory don’t hand it to them.
Sounds like the abs will have no problem then 🙄
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Guys, it's Romania and Tonga. The test to see how good this team is, that's next week. A loss next week and then all to play for against Scotland just to qualify.
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@The-Irishman said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
Guys, it's Romania and Tonga. The test to see how good this team is, that's next week. A loss next week and then all to play for against Scotland just to qualify.
Yes - but the manner of the wins and the way the Irish team is playing should give you confidence.
The only concern would be discipline and getting on the wrong side of officials with the yap yap yap from Sexton et.al .. You have NZs spin the wheel BOK for next week and then Nic Berry (my personal least fav ref in the world) for Scotlandwhatever the result next week I struggle to see Ireland going down to Scotland - unless there are several key injuries / cards against SA and some "interesting officiating" .....
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Well that went all right. Roll on the next match. We've been here before.
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@Mattasaurus said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
@The-Irishman said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
Guys, it's Romania and Tonga. The test to see how good this team is, that's next week. A loss next week and then all to play for against Scotland just to qualify.
Yes - but the manner of the wins and the way the Irish team is playing should give you confidence.
The only concern would be discipline and getting on the wrong side of officials with the yap yap yap from Sexton et.al .. You have NZs spin the wheel BOK for next week and then Nic Berry (my personal least fav ref in the world) for Scotlandwhatever the result next week I struggle to see Ireland going down to Scotland - unless there are several key injuries / cards against SA and some "interesting officiating" .....
Scots will be up for it and won’t have any fears or hang ups about playing a team they know so well from the Six nations……but in saying that Ireland will most likely be too clinical overall.
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
Still can’t believe we chose Francis saili over bundee. Think it was the Henry era still.
It's silly to pretend that Aki was ever at AB level when he was in NZ. The year Saili made the ABs Aki was a bench player for the Chiefs, he then had one year as a starter for the Chiefs before leaving NZ rugby for money.
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@Mattasaurus said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
I only just woke up and missed the game. Do we have a chance against these guys?
Based on what we have delivered in the last 3 games... I wouldn't be putting the mortgage on it - Irish forwards are a tight unit that show urgency and to large degrees accuracy that we just haven't come close too.
Plus their backs run effective lines and don't have to deal with multiple playmakers and bullshit cross kicks etc.
The other glaring gap would be the kicking accuracy and chasing ...... we're not even close on that oneOverall their game is more efficient and less complicated than ours to get right .
And from the outside looking in , it looks like they have 100 percent belief and buy in from the players in their system ,
Ours, if the fans question it, you got to wonder if some of the players do too
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@MajorRage said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
Tonga have to be careful flying into the rucks.
Red cards waiting to happen.
Ireland, like all top rugby teams, are colossal cheats.
That's a bit unfair on Ireland, they've been doing it since long before they were a top team
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
Very impressive performance from Ireland. Look the complete package.
Their scrum is gash.
So far they’ve got away with it by employing and refining the Bill Young book of tricks.
There were three scrums in a row in that second half where Furlong was furfolded like a cheap tweed suit. Inexplicably on the third one Barnes penalized Tonga. Presumably for not babying the jovial spud botherer.
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@Nepia said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
Still can’t believe we chose Francis saili over bundee. Think it was the Henry era still.
It's silly to pretend that Aki was ever at AB level when he was in NZ. The year Saili made the ABs Aki was a bench player for the Chiefs, he then had one year as a starter for the Chiefs before leaving NZ rugby for money.
This is completely wrong
Saili got picked in 2013.
Aki had the most starts at 12 for the Chiefs before the squad got selected in 2013 (remembering in these days they paused Super Rugby during the June test window) - I think he had close to 10 starts - I just went back and checked.
In fact - it was Saili that was on bench for the Blues at the time - I remember it being a story that Saili was coming off the bench for the Blues but got selected by the ABs.
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@stodders said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
The sheer number of Ireland cleaners who just flop over the ruck, sealing off the ball. I counted 3 piled on top of each other in one ruck alone.
They sound like they are in danger of sealing off their own team!
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@Mattasaurus said in RWC Week 2: Ireland v Tonga:
whatever the result next week I struggle to see Ireland going down to Scotland - unless there are several key injuries / cards against SA and some "interesting officiating" .....
I'd be very surprised if the SA-Ireland game won't result in a few injuries, the rucks and tackles will be ferocious. As for officiating, these teams should give themselves a pat on the back if there are no cards.
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