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    @Bovidae I reckon he'd have to be super-rated AND pretty much on the brink of playing.

    He hasn't played for the ABs since 2021, so I'm pretty doubtful he's going to be seen as indespensible. (We may yet see Akira's name pop up?!!).

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    @frugby fells weird

    i know someone mentioned dickson at 6....but hes so obviously a lock...and we have lio willie on the bench

    and then gilbert at 10...i know ive quite liked him there before but he's much better at 15 or midfield

    Have we got injuries? im assuming millar is still out?

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    If Havili doesn’t make the RWC squad Ta$man should use him at 10.

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    Strange team. Can't see why we aren't starting our best loose trio of Sanders, Withy and Lio-Willie. Odd decision to play Gilbert at 10 when they want to progress the development of Millar and Faleafaga. Same with picking Leef on the bench ahead of them both. Odd to pick Mclea ahead of Hastie as well.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    @frugby fells weird

    i know someone mentioned dickson at 6....but hes so obviously a lock...and we have lio willie on the bench

    and then gilbert at 10...i know ive quite liked him there before but he's much better at 15 or midfield

    Have we got injuries? im assuming millar is still out?

    Millar played last Friday in the preseason game

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    @SouthernMann said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    @frugby fells weird

    i know someone mentioned dickson at 6....but hes so obviously a lock...and we have lio willie on the bench

    and then gilbert at 10...i know ive quite liked him there before but he's much better at 15 or midfield

    Have we got injuries? im assuming millar is still out?

    Millar played last Friday in the preseason game

    weird neither Millar of Ajay named...even on the bench, this feels like the kind of team we might see late in the season after some injuries....or when so people have been dropped for off field shit

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    Reads like there will be a lot of changes through the season.

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    @Duluth said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    If Havili doesn’t make the RWC squad Ta$man should use him at 10.

    How Robinson goes in this game might be a big indicator of how Ta$man goes in this game. Seems like our fourth choice first five - behind Hunt, Willy Havili and Parata - possibly O'Malley as well.

    The rest of the team looks decent enough for NPC.

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    R.E Otago, I'd imagine the following is the case:

    • Sanders probably picked up a niggle/is still a little bit short on minutes so they want to give him another week in training
    • I mentioned Dickson on the blindside. For this week, they probably looked at what they had and wanted to get their best players on the park
    • PGS not playing for Naki this week due to the fact he was with the NZ XV, so imagine Lio-Willie is only allowed to play 20 minutes hence he is on the bench
    • Millar and Faleafaga will be injured/aren't allowed to play for a particular reason... don't panic, the coaches don't seriously rate Leef above them!
    • Hastie, no idea there, might be a reason linked to the two above. Could explain why Leef and McClea started last week.
    • Interesting that Umaga-Jensen is on the bench, struggling for a reason on that one... perhaps there has been some illness going around, which could explain why the two young first fives are absent.

    If all of the above is correct, that is probably the best team we could have picked IMO.

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    A pointer towards Crusaders selection maybe,Taine is rated highly by the Crusaders as a FB/MF option maybe as a First Five option now as well.

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    @frugby said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    R.E Otago, I'd imagine the following is the case:

    • Sanders probably picked up a niggle/is still a little bit short on minutes so they want to give him another week in training
    • I mentioned Dickson on the blindside. For this week, they probably looked at what they had and wanted to get their best players on the park
    • PGS not playing for Naki this week due to the fact he was with the NZ XV, so imagine Lio-Willie is only allowed to play 20 minutes hence he is on the bench
    • Millar and Faleafaga will be injured/aren't allowed to play for a particular reason... don't panic, the coaches don't seriously rate Leef above them!
    • Hastie, no idea there, might be a reason linked to the two above. Could explain why Leef and McClea started last week.
    • Interesting that Umaga-Jensen is on the bench, struggling for a reason on that one... perhaps there has been some illness going around, which could explain why the two young first fives are absent.

    If all of the above is correct, that is probably the best team we could have picked IMO.

    calm and well thought out arguments really does take the fun out of things you know

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    @frugby said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    R.E Otago, I'd imagine the following is the case:

    • Sanders probably picked up a niggle/is still a little bit short on minutes so they want to give him another week in training
    • I mentioned Dickson on the blindside. For this week, they probably looked at what they had and wanted to get their best players on the park
    • PGS not playing for Naki this week due to the fact he was with the NZ XV, so imagine Lio-Willie is only allowed to play 20 minutes hence he is on the bench
    • Millar and Faleafaga will be injured/aren't allowed to play for a particular reason... don't panic, the coaches don't seriously rate Leef above them!
    • Hastie, no idea there, might be a reason linked to the two above. Could explain why Leef and McClea started last week.
    • Interesting that Umaga-Jensen is on the bench, struggling for a reason on that one... perhaps there has been some illness going around, which could explain why the two young first fives are absent.

    If all of the above is correct, that is probably the best team we could have picked IMO.

    It will be exciting to see how Whaanga, Hurley and Te Hiwi go. Although, the idea of Levi Aumua barrelling down towards Hurley as the final line of defence is a bit scary. Gilbert could swap to the back a bit in D.

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    All five Highlanders locks from this year start this game.

    Doesn't really mean much, but it is interesting.

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    A good way of comparing teams is going player for player.

    I score it 4-2 to Ta$man in the pack, with a couple of draws, and 5-2 in the backs.

    I don't like Otago's chances

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    @SouthernMann said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    @frugby said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    R.E Otago, I'd imagine the following is the case:

    • Sanders probably picked up a niggle/is still a little bit short on minutes so they want to give him another week in training
    • I mentioned Dickson on the blindside. For this week, they probably looked at what they had and wanted to get their best players on the park
    • PGS not playing for Naki this week due to the fact he was with the NZ XV, so imagine Lio-Willie is only allowed to play 20 minutes hence he is on the bench
    • Millar and Faleafaga will be injured/aren't allowed to play for a particular reason... don't panic, the coaches don't seriously rate Leef above them!
    • Hastie, no idea there, might be a reason linked to the two above. Could explain why Leef and McClea started last week.
    • Interesting that Umaga-Jensen is on the bench, struggling for a reason on that one... perhaps there has been some illness going around, which could explain why the two young first fives are absent.

    If all of the above is correct, that is probably the best team we could have picked IMO.

    It will be exciting to see how Whaanga, Hurley and Te Hiwi go. Although, the idea of Levi Aumua barrelling down towards Hurley as the final line of defence is a bit scary. Gilbert could swap to the back a bit in D.

    yeah....now i cant think about anything else...in saying that, the game he played for the HIghlanders in Queenstown, i was impressed with his defence on the line, coming out to make a few chop tackles on some big forwards....i live in hope

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    @Chris said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    @Chris-B
    A pointer towards Crusaders selection maybe,Taine is rated highly by the Crusaders as a FB/MF option maybe as a First Five option now as well.

    Maybe - though I think Hunt and Parata might both still be injured - and Willy Havili probably with Tonga.

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    @frugby Frizz wearing a false beard? 🙂

    I did the same player-for-player exercise - for Otage - Withy, Gilbert and Nareki + one of the locks over PPP?

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    @Chris-B said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    @frugby Frizz wearing a false beard? 🙂

    I did the same player-for-player exercise - for Otage - Withy, Gilbert and Nareki + one of the locks over PPP?

    Yep, I actually was conservative and had Withy as a draw with Segner. It was more so Holland > PPP and I think there is an argument Dickson beats out Hicks, though neither a really blindside flankers.

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    @Chris-B said in Ta$man vs Otago:

    I did the same player-for-player exercise - for Otage - Withy, Gilbert and Nareki + one of the locks over PPP?

    Probably pick Ma'u over your tighthead. Nothing between the two halfbacks. Gilbert and Nareki in the backs.

    Out of the squad we named. Probably not the strongest 23 we could name in a perfect scenario.

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    Only players unavailable for selection apparently are Lentjes, Timu and Haig.

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