Crusaders 2024
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Just hoping we finish strong, now it is time to prepare for next year. Cannot see Rebs getting up in Fiji. Kind of have this feeling this campaign has been a kind of rest home for some of the Crusaders vying for higher honours. A lot will be fresh and uninjured and firing for Razor.
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@Chris said in Drua v Rebels:
@African-Monkey said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 It's all I've heard all week down in the garden city haha.
The Rebels were never gonna last playing at a high speed early on and were spent by halftime. They did well to only lose by 21.
Who goes ahead of who between the Rebels and Drua?
That was never going to happen.
Drua were always going to win this game in Fiji.
For me I am glad we didn’t make it,
It will start a real look at things at the Crusaders, coaching,retention,recruitment it will only strengthen them in the long run.
a kick in the arse can work wonders for the future.It’s 1 down season after huge changes roster wise and coaching wise, multiple injuries too. Just one of those seasons that happens sometimes and you guys will bounce back well next season. It’s just more of a headline I believe as the media have lapped it up big time
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@Chris Haha don't worry mate, you'll be back challenging next year no doubt, and this season was nothing more than a one off imo, but us opposition fans will enjoy it while it lasts haha (won't be long).
Looks like the Drua jump into 7th with the Rebels dropping to 8th.
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@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
and you guys will bounce back well next season
why?
Dynasties end - and they are hard to come back from. Is the quality there? I'm not convinced what will be different next year
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@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
and you guys will bounce back well next season
why?
Dynasties end - and they are hard to come back from. Is the quality there? I'm not convinced what will be different next year
There’s plenty of quality in that Crusaders team, you’re only kidding yourself if you think there isn’t. So many All Blacks and All Black XV players. For one reason or another it just didn’t gel this season, it happens.
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The preseason jaunt to UK followed by Magicround in Mebourne and a game against the Drua in Fiji, weren't ideal starts. A number of results didn't go our way, where we lost narrowly. Next year is another campaign, needs to be a big review on this season. Some positives to draw on were winning the Under 20s Comp and blooding a number of newbies.
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@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
and you guys will bounce back well next season
why?
Dynasties end - and they are hard to come back from. Is the quality there? I'm not convinced what will be different next year
There’s plenty of quality in that Crusaders team, you’re only kidding yourself if you think there isn’t. So many All Blacks and All Black XV players. For one reason or another it just didn’t gel this season, it happens.
To me truth lies somewhere in the middle
Crusaders should be in the mix for the top 6 next season
But the days of dominating proceedings I think are done for now
Which is good for the comp. Crusaders become one of a number of contenders
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@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
and you guys will bounce back well next season
why?
Dynasties end - and they are hard to come back from. Is the quality there? I'm not convinced what will be different next year
There’s plenty of quality in that Crusaders team, you’re only kidding yourself if you think there isn’t. So many All Blacks and All Black XV players. For one reason or another it just didn’t gel this season, it happens.
Next year they still won't have Whitelock, Mo'unga and Razor.
I'll rephrase: how are they different to the 98 Blues who came off similar decades of dominance?
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@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
and you guys will bounce back well next season
why?
Dynasties end - and they are hard to come back from. Is the quality there? I'm not convinced what will be different next year
There’s plenty of quality in that Crusaders team, you’re only kidding yourself if you think there isn’t. So many All Blacks and All Black XV players. For one reason or another it just didn’t gel this season, it happens.
Next year they still won't have Whitelock, Mo'unga and Razor.
I'll rephrase: how are they different to the 98 Blues who came off similar decades of dominance?
You asked if the quality was there and I just answered saying there is. Nobody doubts that and that’s why it’s all been such a headline this season.
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@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
and you guys will bounce back well next season
why?
Dynasties end - and they are hard to come back from. Is the quality there? I'm not convinced what will be different next year
There’s plenty of quality in that Crusaders team, you’re only kidding yourself if you think there isn’t. So many All Blacks and All Black XV players. For one reason or another it just didn’t gel this season, it happens.
Next year they still won't have Whitelock, Mo'unga and Razor.
I'll rephrase: how are they different to the 98 Blues who came off similar decades of dominance?
You asked if the quality was there and I just answered saying there is. Nobody doubts that and that’s why it’s all been such a headline this season.
So the 98 Blues had quality as well.
It's lazy to just presume they'll bounce back. The question is 'why'. Is the coaching going to be better? Composure under pressure? What's going to be different?
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@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
and you guys will bounce back well next season
why?
Dynasties end - and they are hard to come back from. Is the quality there? I'm not convinced what will be different next year
There’s plenty of quality in that Crusaders team, you’re only kidding yourself if you think there isn’t. So many All Blacks and All Black XV players. For one reason or another it just didn’t gel this season, it happens.
Next year they still won't have Whitelock, Mo'unga and Razor.
I'll rephrase: how are they different to the 98 Blues who came off similar decades of dominance?
You asked if the quality was there and I just answered saying there is. Nobody doubts that and that’s why it’s all been such a headline this season.
So the 98 Blues had quality as well.
It's lazy to just presume they'll bounce back. The question is 'why'. Is the coaching going to be better? Composure under pressure? What's going to be different?
How is it lazy when they clearly have quality? Really struggling to pick up on your argument here. If you don’t think they don’t have quality and don’t think they will bounce back then that’s your opinion and I accept it. I’m just giving you mine
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@Landers92 said in Crusaders 2024:
@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Drua v Rebels:
@Landers92 said in Drua v Rebels:
and you guys will bounce back well next season
why?
Dynasties end - and they are hard to come back from. Is the quality there? I'm not convinced what will be different next year
There’s plenty of quality in that Crusaders team, you’re only kidding yourself if you think there isn’t. So many All Blacks and All Black XV players. For one reason or another it just didn’t gel this season, it happens.
Next year they still won't have Whitelock, Mo'unga and Razor.
I'll rephrase: how are they different to the 98 Blues who came off similar decades of dominance?
You asked if the quality was there and I just answered saying there is. Nobody doubts that and that’s why it’s all been such a headline this season.
So the 98 Blues had quality as well.
It's lazy to just presume they'll bounce back. The question is 'why'. Is the coaching going to be better? Composure under pressure? What's going to be different?
How is it lazy when they clearly have quality? Really struggling to pick up on your argument here. If you don’t think they don’t have quality and don’t think they will bounce back then that’s your opinion and I accept it. I’m just giving you mine
They had quality this year, and missed the playoffs with an 8/12 team comp.
I guess my question is: what's different next year? They seem a solid mid table team - but I can't see them being dominant again in the short term like they were. My comparison is previous dynasties that, when they fell apart, fell apart for an extended period. Again - what's goin gto be differnet next year?