Crusaders 2024
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@Duluth said in Crusaders 2024:
@Chris-B said in Crusaders 2024:
I don't see how anyone from the Crusaders' Executive could get up and say, with a straight face, "We have faith in Rob Penney to turn it around". Based on what?
The people that appointed him would have to admit a mistake
Mansbridge attacking the media as childish for suggesting Penney should be sacked tells you something about the mentality. Remember how unprofessional the same guy was when Darry signed with the Blues?
Yeah he acted like a kid that got told no by his parents for the first time in his life, it was embarrassing, especially with the amount of players they've taken out of the Blues region over the years (which there is no problem with).
Sorry Crusaders fans, carry on, don't want to make it look like us Aucklanders are invading your thread haha, just thought I'd make comment on that particular subject.
All the best for Saturday.
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For those who missed it, the quote was:
“It would be quite nice if the Blues gave us a cheque for the expenditure we’ve occurred, that would be quite nice,’’ he told Stuff.
Will be interesting to see if Razor holds a grudge - his comment also showed some disappointment (the article quotes Darry as saying that Razor was cool with the move).
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@Chris-B said in Crusaders 2024:
I reckon we might see Penney resigning a few days after the season ends.
Not sounding like a guy about to quit
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@Duluth Yeah - just saw Rob on TV sounding pretty adamant.
He's at least sticking to the prescribed script - unlike Mansbridge, who possibly should have gone with, "Full credit to the Blues!"
We'll see in the wash-up, I guess. He'd be gone if it was left to me - major underperformance regardless of mitigating circumstances..
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That TVNZ piece on Rob Penny is a real watch. Reporter Thomas Mead certainly won't be getting a Christmas card of or a free scarf after Penny called him a see you next Tuesday
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@SouthernMann said in Crusaders 2024:
That TVNZ piece on Rob Penny is a real watch. Reporter Thomas Mead certainly won't be getting a Christmas card of or a free scarf after Penny called him a see you next Tuesday
Tough questions are fine but there was some low quality shit at the start. Penney did well to stay mostly calm
Full interview here
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@Duluth said in Crusaders 2024:
@SouthernMann said in Crusaders 2024:
That TVNZ piece on Rob Penny is a real watch. Reporter Thomas Mead certainly won't be getting a Christmas card of or a free scarf after Penny called him a see you next Tuesday
Tough questions are fine but there was some low quality shit at the start. Penney did well to stay mostly calm
Full interview here
I'd say pretty low-quality throughout, to be honest. Repetitive, silly questions and it came across far more like a legal interrogation than any sort of conversation, which is just poor technique on the interviewer's behalf. I know he was after a soundbyte but jeez...
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@gt12 said in Crusaders 2024:
For those who missed it, the quote was:
“It would be quite nice if the Blues gave us a cheque for the expenditure we’ve occurred, that would be quite nice,’’ he told Stuff.
Is that a post or a description from the dictionary under hypocrisy?
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@gt12 If I remember rightly Razor had to
choose between Darry and Zach Gallagher to keep. They knew they had Hannah and Taylor Cahill coming thru the ranks as well. Gallagher was a beast at school level. His body has continued to let him down.
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Really don’t think Penny did himself any favours by trying to blank some repetitive questions. It’s part of the shit you sign up for up for in professional sport and there was some validity to the questions. Then to call him a c unit straight after and get overheard is just naive.
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@chchfanatic Hannah and Cahill long way behind Darry the Crusaders chased Darry but he re signed for Blues , same with Segner
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Rugby: Crusaders coach swears at journalist
Under-fire Rob Penney caught in hot mic embarrassment at tense press conference.
I mean, he's not wrong, but it's not a good look
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The narrative was developed to push Penny. He didn't handle many of the questions well. There were some simple answers he could have given that would have helped just push them to the side. He bit back or was abrasive instead. Some of the questions held merit. Afterall, he is one of the least sucessful coaches in Super Rugby history. That is a fact. Pouring fuel on that he is the coach of the most suceasful team in the comp's history. If he had responded to the questions by saying this has been a very difficult period. That he has a close and trusted working relationship with his team and management. He could have brought down the temperature of the interactions. Imagine if this was an EPL or even NRL coach. These questions would be weekly or even twice a week. You can't become the story because you react poorly. Using the audio from the hot mic was fair game.
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The questions were fair they are legitimate questions most Crusaders supporters would like a proper answer too.
The reaction at the end tells me a fair bit as does they way he reacted and answered the questions.
To me it felt like he didn't want to take any real ownership for what has happened.
I am sick of social media and a lot are Crusaders supporters saying we are rebuilding etc inexperience etc, No there is enough experience in that squad who have won titles over the last 3 - 5 years to be better than 11th place.At least middle of the table.
It is time for the Crusaders to own up they fucked up appointing Rob Penny and are suffering for it,But we are going to see the same shit next year if Penny is still there as I don't think they will sack him, if they don't the board should fuck right off with him in 2026.
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Not suggesting by any means Penny has been perfect, but this has pretty much been 5%> in terms of outcomes.
The injuries are one thing, but even still, the amount of games they have lost in bizarre ways/have been very close is not something I think have ever seen before.
- Lost to the Tahs with two intercepts and a charge down
- Lost to the Tahs when the game was all but won
- Lost to the Brumbies after punching the ball dead
- Lost late to both the Hurricanes and Chiefs
- Lost to the Highlanders despite scoring four tries to two
- Lost a close one to the Reds
The only other defeats are away to the Force (Poor), and up in Fiji + Eden Park (3? combined home losses in the last two seasons)
The Crusaders sure have been their own worst enemies, but if you played this season 100 times, I am convinced this is the worst possible outcome.
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@Mr-Fish said in Crusaders 2024:
@Duluth said in Crusaders 2024:
Here’s the after interview comment for those that missed it
Penney comes out of this looking a lot better than the journalist
Agreed, especially when you see the full interview. It's embarrassing.
Just someone accidentally and awkwardly telling it like it is.
Non story. I hope Penney laughs about it in years to come down the pub with his mates.
