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    @Chris I think if you are gonna give the young guy a chance, you gotta back them, or at least give them a decent crack.

    Plus is Havili really the answer?

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    @taniwharugby said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Chris I think if you are gonna give the young guy a chance, you gotta back them, or at least give them a decent crack.

    Plus is Havili really the answer?

    No Havilli is not the answer,I don't believe Kemera is either but they have to run with him at least another game and hope he improves.

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    @Chris yeah, while last week he struggled, if he gets another crack and struggles again, then you need to look at how you use him going forward, too often these guys are thrown in the deep end, they fall over then dropped, at least he has the chance to redeem himself.

    Any news on Reihana? Who may also not be the answer, but certainly showed enough to warrant a further look too.

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    @taniwharugby said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Chris yeah, while last week he struggled, if he gets another crack and struggles again, then you need to look at how you use him going forward, too often these guys are thrown in the deep end, they fall over then dropped, at least he has the chance to redeem himself.

    Any news on Reihana? Who may also not be the answer, but certainly showed enough to warrant a further look too.

    Reihana due back Rd 7 or 8.

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    @Chris return date about the same as Burke?

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    Blackadder any news ?

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    @Duluth said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Chris return date about the same as Burke?

    Yes Williams a couple of weeks latter.

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    @george33 said in Crusaders 2024:

    Blackadder any news ?

    Last I heard back for Rd 5

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    @taniwharugby Yeah Kemara does deserve a decent Crack I feel. I do feel for him a bit coming in straight after Mo'unga when the spotlight is gonna be heavily on him but he'll be better for the run.

    Havili at 10 would be nothing more Than a stop gap measure and a short sighted move. Penney is right putting his faith in his current options.

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    @African-Monkey said in Crusaders 2024:

    Havili at 10 would be nothing more Than a stop gap measure and a short sighted move

    But with Reihana and Burke due back in a month or so there's a real argument than Havili as the stop gap is what's needed.

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    @KiwiMurph Fair argument, but if they see Kemara as their man for the future, why not give him a fair crack now and see what he's about? A bit of short term pain for long term gain?

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    I don't remember Havili being a huge success at 1st 5 either. I think it would have been better to partner Kemara with a more experienced halfback against NSW. They are doing that this week.

    And just to put it into perspective. Kemara is only the no.3 1st 5 for Waikato, so is still learning his trade.

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    @Bovidae said in Crusaders 2024:

    I don't remember Havili being a huge success at 1st 5 either.

    Only one start at SR or NPC level. It was a against the Chiefs in 2020. He was very good in the first and then had a few errors in the second half

    He looked promising though. When you look at some of the other names they've used since I presume he doesn't want to play there

    You can see a couple of his involvements here:

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    @Duluth Yeah, I remember that game, and the final result. I wasn't sure he if he had started any other games.

    Speaking of 1st 5s, the fact that Hohepa is on the bench for the Drua game suggests Harford isn't wanted (unless he is injured).

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    @Bovidae Harford was with the Blues in the preseason. Not sure if he’s still training with them

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    @Duluth Hohepa was with the Chiefs. I think that the WTG players are available to any team, if required, and the player agrees.

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    @Bovidae said in Crusaders 2024:

    And just to put it into perspective. Kemara is only the no.3 1st 5 for Waikato, so is still learning his trade.

    And when Dan Carter was Kemara's age he hadn't yet played any games of first class rugby - but was close. Started with Canterbury when he was 20 and Crusaders when 21.

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    @george33 said in Crusaders 2024:

    Blackadder any news ?

    Another bit of news Blackadder got through training well this week including live scrummaging .
    Maybe back a week early Rd 4 definitely Rd 5
    Unless he has another injury set back.

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    The Saders could have a look at Oscar Koller, the NH 1st Five. He has a huge boot and can run. Not sure about his game management though.

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    I’m preparing myself for a 96-esque season. The transition from Razor and a number of very key players from previous successful campaigns all at once will take time to overcome.

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