AFL 2023
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@mariner4life I don’t think Hardwick actually ever finished 9th , that was the coaches before . Frawley and plough.But the jokes hang around. He got the team to the point where they kept making finals , but kept going out in straight sets. 3 years in a row . Then in 2016 with heaps of injuries they missed finals altogether.
That’s when they had the review and stuck with him .
Year later they win the flag .
Not sure about the affair , gossip pages love to point at that . But you would need to ask the players if it had an effect . Not many dynasties seem to go past 3.
His close mate Clarkson talks about staying at hawks too long , I think there might be a bit of that in his decision, knowing it’s over .
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@mariner4life said in AFL 2023:
So Hardwick goes, incredible.
He was half sacked when Richmond kept coming 9th. Got retained, changed the assistants, and suddenly Richmond were the dominant team in the league. Three flags is an awesome return.
It's difficult to not think about keeping Leppitsch.
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@kiwiinmelb came in 2010 after the Tigers finished 15th (second last) in 2009. His first 3 seasons - 15th, 12th 12th. Then he made the 8 the next 3 seasons.
Then it all fell off a cliff in 2016 when they didn’t make the finals (finished 13th) and there was a big review and the faithful were calling for his head. They stayed true and they got in better coaches around him and made some front office changes. Then one of the great turnarounds in 2017 to win the flag. Then the rest is history winning two more in 19 and 20.
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@ACT-Crusader said in AFL 2023:
@kiwiinmelb came in 2010 after the Tigers finished 15th (second last) in 2009. His first 3 seasons - 15th, 12th 12th. Then he made the 8 the next 3 seasons.
Then it all fell off a cliff in 2016 when they didn’t make the finals (finished 13th) and there was a big review and the faithful were calling for his head. They stayed true and they got in better coaches around him and made some front office changes. Then one of the great turnarounds in 2017 to win the flag. Then the rest is history winning two more in 19 and 20.
Yep , I was there for all of that , had a reserved seat through all those years.
Was refreshing to see a club and coach part ways on amicable terms. Both realising it’s over ,and acknowledging it’s time to move on .
I’m tipping he will end up at the Gold Coast , I know he and his new partner like the idea of living up there .
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What was really interesting with that 2017 season , was the game plan where it was all flipped on its head ,
Prior to that , they were a really careful measured team , they were like watching a B grade hawthorn,
Then between seasons 16 and 17 , they lost 2 tall forwards and were left with one tall in jack amd a big rotation of small fast forwards, and it was out of finding a game plan to suit their list , and the Chaos style was born.
Through most of that season I can remember, they got very little credit , because the traditional style of collecting stats had them looking inferior on stats sheets .
Losing clearances, then winning it back through tackling pressure and intercept marks , going forward with run and handball , scrubbing messy looking kicks into the forward line and winning it at ground level and snapping goals
Media reviews would say things like, looking at these stats it’s hard to work out how they won, I think they were lucky , can’t see them beating X next week , then they would win again.
It took a while for the rest of the comp to catch on what they were doing different.I saw an interview with a guy from champion data a few years back and he said the way Richmond were playing caused them to introduce some new stats .
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RIP your tipping comp
Sydney beating Carlton by 4 goals?
Hawthorn beating the Saints?
Freo over Melbourne at the G?
GWS over Geelong in Geelong?
Suns over the Dogs?The less said about yesterday the better. If you are going to kick 18 behinds what do you expect?
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Inject another Carlton disappointment straight in to my veins. If/when they lose to Essendon this weekend do they fire yet another coach?
Melbourne may have won, but they are a very ordinary side at the moment
Port kicking 16 goals in teh first half against Hawthorn looked like it was going to get really ugly. But lucky for the Hawks the Port guys clocked off
Geelong get a needed win before they start to get troops back
The fucking Suns won again, and the Crows being unable to win outside Adelaide confirmed -
got 5 picks...i'll take it...i am 300000th out of over 800000 people in the tipping comp, thats mad, even if loads are fake accounts for some reasons...thats loads of people for a comp not watched much outside aussie...and thats the people doing to tips, there will be loads more that just watch the games like i did before this year
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what did you miss? The suns and who?
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for some reason i had GWS over richmond....i remember thinking "its still richmond" and as a swans fan and because toby greene is a fuckncukle i hate GWS....so must have just hit the wrong button
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GWS probably should’ve won that game too.
Thursday night footy is back for the next 6 weeks. I still think it’s crazy that the AFL don’t have it as a permanent feature each week.
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@ACT-Crusader mrs womble travels for work and shes started doing it on tuesday and thursday nights because im at rugby practice, good when i get home and egt to watch some AFL too
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@mariner4life said in AFL 2023:
Adelaide
WTF?
Clicked on sometime in the 2nd Q and we were comfortably ahead. 60 odd to 20 odd or something.
The Fuck?
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loooooooooooooool
Two clubs desperate to stay relevant have all their historical Cups out before the game? The cringe level is off the charts. Essendon haven't won a final in two decades, and Carlton are just as bad. Let it go dickheads, you mean less to this comp than the Suns in 2023
Also Saturday never happened
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4/8...bloody hell its hard to tip!
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Was nice seeing the Pies knocked down. Even though I like the coach and don’t mind most of this crop of players, and the way they play - but can’t have them winning all the time given their fan base…
Great week - Thursday Saints, Friday Warriors, Saturday Saders.
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we're sort of halfway through this longer season. 23 games means you need 13 wins to make finals (12 and a draw might get you in, but i wouldn't want to rely on that).
Which means the teams on 8 wins are basically penned in, and that's 6 spots
Then it gets tight. Adelaide and the Bulldogs only need to go 5-5 from here out. BUT, the three teams behind them on 6 wins (Geelong, Freo, GC) have an extra game left.
Everyone below them would need to go on a tear to get in, including Sydney, who are probably the only other semi-realistic (mathematically at least) chance. Everyone else needs to go at least 7-3 from here out, which would be a pretty significant change in form.If Geelong can get fit, then i pick them to jump in to the 8, but the other 7 teams who are already there to stay.
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...i swear to go if Powerhouse hadn;t won on sat i would have been pissed ot have missed that swannies game...double century?! i know it was only WA but
- we havent exactly been on fire recently
- i know its happened before but not often!
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Watched a quarter and a bit of Crows v Kangas.
Nice win (assume we didn't ship 12 goals in the last 4 minutes).
And in the 8.
When we did start to not be useless?
Also, apart for Tex and Sloane, who are these people?
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Even comp
Collingwood obviously the best side. Rest of the top 4 very even, though the Lions are weak as piss and have obviously developed a fatal allergy to the 'G
Then 5th to 15th varying levels of average, but all still a mathematic chance of playing finals. how? Do the Saints, Bulldogs, Bombers and Adelaide just keep losing? Before i went away they were all but safe? Fucking GWS and Carlton are suddenly in the mix? What happened?
