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  • HigginsH Offline
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    @Stargazer Are you telling me the hotel/motel sector in HB will not be able to cope with three or four hundred spectators travelling for greater than a one day return driving distance away?

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    @Higgins said in Black Ferns 2023:

    @Stargazer Are you telling me the hotel/motel sector in HB will not be able to cope with three or four hundred spectators travelling for greater than a one day return driving distance away?

    Quite possibly not. How much is in use as temporary accommodation for displaced people already?

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    Tui, Demant and one other BF are rewatching the RWC final on Sky sports right now

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    Revelation of the final, Demant ran the ball near the end of the game because Cocksedge call her to. Almost screwed up the whole final

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    One thing I noticed in the endless replays we have had of that last lineout is the unheralded work from Krystal Murray. Ngan Woo gets the steal but it’s Murray that then holds back the drive to try and push into touch. There was still seconds on the clock at that stage and another lineout was a possibility.
    Her effort to push back was huge.

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    @Crucial said in Black Ferns 2023:

    One thing I noticed in the endless replays we have had of that last lineout is the unheralded work from Krystal Murray. Ngan Woo gets the steal but it’s Murray that then holds back the drive to try and push into touch. There was still seconds on the clock at that stage and another lineout was a possibility.
    Her effort to push back was huge.

    She had a big impact off the bench

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    I'm not surprised, especially after Clarke was named as a NZ U20 assistant coach yesterday.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/black-ferns/131631128/wes-clarke-leaves-black-ferns-after-seven-years-as-assistant-coach-after-missing-out-on-top-job

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    @Bovidae said in Black Ferns 2023:

    I'm not surprised, especially after Clarke was named as a NZ U20 assistant coach yesterday.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/black-ferns/131631128/wes-clarke-leaves-black-ferns-after-seven-years-as-assistant-coach-after-missing-out-on-top-job

    Good to know there's no nepotism in the women's coaching selection ...

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    How much do we think Bunting will change the squads? He has the odd situation of seeing Aupiki then players go back to club followed by FPC.
    Untimely injuries may play a part but there were a number of players not involved in the RWC that stood out in Aupiki.

    Front rows are fairly settled and it was good to see some improve.
    I don't think Demant played well in Aupiki but a second captain change (especially to POTY) would be a big call.
    Obviously some 7s players leave gaps to be filled as well.

    Will have a crack at a squad or contract list when I have a moment.

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    @Crucial The first test is on 29 June 2029. Three months to bridge. How many players will get a contract? I forgot.

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    @Stargazer said in Black Ferns 2023:

    How many players will get a contract? I forgot.

    There were 29 players in 2022.

    Contracted Black Ferns: Ariana Bayler (Waikato), Eloise Blackwell (Auckland), Alana Bremner (Canterbury), Chelsea Bremner (Canterbury), Grace Brooker (Canterbury), Kendra Cocksedge (Canterbury), Ruahei Demant (Auckland), Amy du Plessis (Canterbury), Les Elder (Bay of Plenty), Carla Hohepa (Waikato), Renee Holmes (Waikato), Ayesha Leti-I'iga (Wellington), Pip Love (Canterbury), Patricia Maliepo (Auckland), Arihiana Marino-Tauhinu (Counties Manukau), Charmaine McMenamin (Auckland), Liana Mikaele-Tu'u (Auckland), Krystal Murray (Northland), Aleisha Pearl Nelson (Auckland), Georgia Ponsonby (Canterbury), Cheyelle Robins-Reti (Waikato), Maiakawanakaukani Roos (Auckland), Amy Rule (Canterbury), Chelsea Semple nee Alley (Waikato), Kennedy Simon (Waikato), Grace Steinmetz (Canterbury), Hazel Tubic (Counties Manukau), Renee Wickliffe (Bay of Plenty), Kelsie Wills (Bay of Plenty).

    Of those Elder and Wickliffe have retired, and a few of the older players will be phased out for different reasons (e.g., Blackwell, Hohepa, Semple).

    Bunting needs to reward SRA form, or otherwise that is one more reason not to have the competition.

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    @Bovidae Cocksedge has retired as well; Semple is pregnant.

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    On SRA form Bayler, Blackwell, Hohepa and Nelson (did she play?) def under threat IMO.

    I'd like a 10 to really step up as I'm not convinced on the game management of Demant or Tubic. Rosie Kelly looked promising.
    Don't think Marino-Tauhinu is Cocksedge's natural replacement either.

    Don't know if Willison is returning to Sevens.

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    @Stargazer I included Chelsea, hence the "different reasons". The others in that list are age-related. Hohepa is 37, for example.

    There is certainly no shortage of midfielders and outside backs to choose from, but as @Crucial says, 9 and 10 are a worry, with general play kicking a concern.

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    A complete change in the coaching staff.

    Black Ferns Assistant Coaches confirmed

    Black Ferns Assistant Coaches confirmed

    New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has announced an experienced coaching trio of Tony Christie, Steve Jackson and Mike Delany will join Black Ferns Director of Rugby Allan Bunting.

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    Here's a direct route to the link within a link within a link of the Women and Girls in Rugby Strategy recently released.

    | NZ Rugby

    | NZ Rugby
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    Black Ferns contracts announced for 2023

    Black Ferns contracts announced for 2023

    New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has announced the 34 players contracted players locked in for the Black Ferns as they set their sights on building toward the 2025 Rugby World Cup.

    2023 Black Ferns Contracted Players:
    Alana Bremner (Matatū, Canterbury)
    Amy Du Plessis (Matatū, Canterbury)
    Amy Rule (Matatū, Canterbury)
    Ariana Bayler (Blues, Waikato)
    Arihiana Marino-Tauhinu (Chiefs Manawa, Counties Manukau)
    Awhina Tangen-Wainohu (Chiefs Manawa, Waikato)
    Ayesha Leti-I’iga (Hurricanes Poua, Wellington)
    Charmaine McMenamin (Blues, Auckland)
    Chelsea Bremner (Chiefs Manawa, Canterbury)
    Georgia Ponsonby (Matatū, Canterbury)
    Grace Brooker (Matatū, Canterbury)
    Grace Gago (Blues, Counties Manukau)
    Grace Steinmetz (Matatū, Canterbury)
    Hazel Tubic (Chiefs Manawa, Counties Manukau)
    Joanah Ngan-Woo (Hurricanes Poua, Wellington)
    Katelyn Vahaakolo (Blues, Auckland)
    Kelsie Thwaites (Chiefs Manawa, Bay of Plenty)
    Kendra Reynolds (Matatū, Bay of Plenty)
    Kennedy Simon (Chiefs Manawa, Waikato)
    Krystal Murray (Hurricanes Poua, Northland)
    Layla Sae (Hurricanes Poua, Manawatu)
    Liana Mikaele’Tu'u (Blues, Auckland)
    Logo-I-Pulotu Lemapu Atai'i (Sylvia) Brunt (Blues, Auckland)
    Lucy Jenkins (Matatū, Canterbury)
    Luka Connor (Chiefs Manawa, Bay of Plenty)
    Maiakawanakaukani Roos (Blues, Auckland)
    Mererangi Paul (Chiefs Manawa, Counties Manukau)
    Patricia Maliepo (Blues, Auckland)
    Pip Love (Matatū, Canterbury)
    Renee Holmes (Matatū, Waikato)
    Rosie Kelly (Matatū, Canterbury)
    Ruahei Demant (Blues, Auckland)
    Santo Taumata (Chiefs Manawa, Bay of Plenty)
    Tanya Kalounivale (Chiefs Manawa, Waikato)

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    A few paragraphs from that media release:

    Sky Super Rugby Aupiki standouts, Grace Gago, Katelyn Vahaakolo, Layla Sae, Lucy Jenkins, Mererangi Paul and Rosie Kelly have secured their first fulltime Black Ferns contracts.

    In addition, 2022 Black Ferns Rugby World Cup champions Awhina Tangen-Wainohu, Kendra Reynolds, Sylvia Brunt and Santo Taumata have also picked up fulltime Black Ferns contracts for the first time.

    Amy Rule will complete the Super W season in Australia before returning to the Black Ferns programme. NZR is also working with Ruby Tui to confirm her availability to re-join the Black Ferns programme later in the year.

    Contracted players will train out of regionalised hubs in Auckland, Hamilton, Tauranga, Wellington and Christchurch, where they will receive technical, tactical and strength and conditioning programmes.

    In addition, each player will have one day a week committed to their personal development, focussing on the areas of career/education and work, finance and asset protection, character development, mental wellness and other professional rugby obligations and expectations.

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    Matatū - 11
    Manawa -10
    Poua - 4
    Blues - 9

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    Excluding those players who have retired, are pregnant, or old, Cheyelle Robins-Reti seems to be the only omission from last year. Aleisha Pearl Nelson never played in Aupiki so must have a long-term injury. She is also 33. Kaipo Olsen-Baker is unlucky. There are only two halfbacks in that list too.

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