Australia v South Africa
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@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Yeah but of his era who is a great opener?
no one
Alistair Cook is the only one of his time who is even close.
It's been a very poor decade for test match openers.
a quick look at the box score and i may have been a bit harsh on him. His numbers alone are right up there. To play a hundred tests as an opener and average nearly 47 is actually really good. Not all-time, even for Aus, but it's a hell of a career.
Also, we give Tom Latham a bit too much shit. The number of guys to play 50+ tests as an opener and average over 40 is not that high, and he's well inside both of those parameters
Anyway this shit summer of cricket continues and if the rest of the world aren't careful the boxing day and news years tests will only be England and India soon.
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@mariner4life said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Yeah but of his era who is a great opener?
no one
Alistair Cook is the only one of his time who is even close.
It's been a very poor decade for test match openers.
a quick look at the box score and i may have been a bit harsh on him. His numbers alone are right up there. To play a hundred tests as an opener and average nearly 47 is actually really good. Not all-time, even for Aus, but it's a hell of a career.
Also, we give Tom Latham a bit too much shit. The number of guys to play 50+ tests as an opener and average over 40 is not that high, and he's well inside both of those parameters
Anyway this shit summer of cricket continues and if the rest of the world aren't careful the boxing day and news years tests will only be England and India soon.
If not all time it’s pretty damn close……and as we both point out there’s fuck all genuinely brilliant openers strutting their stuff today.
On paper it’s a better record than Justin Langers. Better than Tubby and Slats too, who were both very good players. Not quite up there with Matt Hayden, but he was superb.
Interesting having a look at Sunil Gavaskars record ( overall average of 51, incredible for an opener facing loads of Windies bowlers in their peak )
He averaged 50 at home, 52 away. He has to be in the discussions for GOAT. As you say, over 40 as an opener and the extremely unlikelihood of lots of not outs is a hell of an effort.
In other news this test is boring, Australia are ridiculous at the moment. Untouchable at home.
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From here the game plan for South Africa would be to bat positively and be around 300 at stumps. Then one and a half big sessions tomorrow morning to put on 200-250 and a sporting declaration with 1.5 sessions left on day 5. I'm not sure if the pitch will break up enough for SA bowlers to force victory.
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@Damo said in Australia v South Africa:
That wicket hurts. It's difficult to see SA being in a position to set a challenging total from here.
solid comedy
i was onboard with your plan, though i assumed they also needed to channel the spirits of AB deVilliers and Herchelle Gibbes
And then Dale Steyn, Shaun Pollock and Alan Donald to take the wickets.
Doable, but unlikely
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@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Matt Hayden, but he was superb.
And a genuine Knob.
Genuine reasons or is it just cos he is Australian and a fucken brilliant player ?
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@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Matt Hayden, but he was superb.
And a genuine Knob.
Genuine reasons or is it just cos he is Australian and a fucken brilliant player ?
Because I have to coach with him for 10 days of the year at the High performance centre at Albion.
And he gets pissed afterwards and makes a dick of himself.
Most people involved with Cricket here in QLD will say the same thing he is right up there with Michael Clarke as a major knob. -
@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Matt Hayden, but he was superb.
And a genuine Knob.
Genuine reasons or is it just cos he is Australian and a fucken brilliant player ?
Because I have to coach with him for 10 days of the year at the High performance centre at Albion.
And he gets pissed afterwards and makes a dick of himself.
Most people involved with Cricket here in QLD will say the same thing he is right up there with Michael Clarke as a major knob.Jeepers. Harsh call.
Oh well, next time you see him tell him I was in awe of his timing and power when I saw him batting up close in the nets at the Basin in 07. Amazing stuff.
Tell him that’s from MN5, if he reads the fern he’ll know who I am.
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@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Matt Hayden, but he was superb.
And a genuine Knob.
Genuine reasons or is it just cos he is Australian and a fucken brilliant player ?
Because I have to coach with him for 10 days of the year at the High performance centre at Albion.
And he gets pissed afterwards and makes a dick of himself.
Most people involved with Cricket here in QLD will say the same thing he is right up there with Michael Clarke as a major knob.Jeepers. Harsh call.
Oh well, next time you see him tell him I was in awe of his timing and power when I saw him batting in the nets at the Basin in 07. Amazing stuff.
Tell him that’s from MN5, if he reads the fern he’ll know who I am.
Ok I will tell him that don't think he reads the Fern if he does he will not be happy with me for calling him a knob, but I am safe,due to see him in January for a Australian u/19 High performance batting and fielding clinic.
I could tell you many stories about M Clarke.
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@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Matt Hayden, but he was superb.
And a genuine Knob.
Genuine reasons or is it just cos he is Australian and a fucken brilliant player ?
Because I have to coach with him for 10 days of the year at the High performance centre at Albion.
And he gets pissed afterwards and makes a dick of himself.
Most people involved with Cricket here in QLD will say the same thing he is right up there with Michael Clarke as a major knob.Jeepers. Harsh call.
Oh well, next time you see him tell him I was in awe of his timing and power when I saw him batting in the nets at the Basin in 07. Amazing stuff.
Tell him that’s from MN5, if he reads the fern he’ll know who I am.
Ok I will tell him that don't think he reads the Fern if he does he will not be happy with me for calling him a knob, but I am safe,due to see him in January for a Australian u/19 High performance batting and fielding clinic.
I could tell you many stories about M Clarke.
Don't be shy.
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@Damo said in Australia v South Africa:
Appalling runout there. That's Inzamam level stuff.
Bavuma in runout shock.... not.
Guy is fucking awful. Turned blind and then left his partner stranded.
The earlier runout was also terrible stuff.
They look like a lazy, disinterested, leaderless bunch. I expected more, but will take thrashing them as compensation.
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@NTA said in Australia v South Africa:
@Damo said in Australia v South Africa:
Appalling runout there. That's Inzamam level stuff.
Bavuma in runout shock.... not.
Guy is fucking awful. Turned blind and then left his partner stranded.
The earlier runout was also terrible stuff.
He would have made it easily if he just ran.
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@NTA said in Australia v South Africa:
@Damo said in Australia v South Africa:
Appalling runout there. That's Inzamam level stuff.
Bavuma in runout shock.... not.
Guy is fucking awful. Turned blind and then left his partner stranded.
The earlier runout was also terrible stuff.
They look like a lazy, disinterested, leaderless bunch. I expected more, but will take thrashing them as compensation.
When did SA become such bunnies?
7 innings without 200, and soon to be 8 innings.
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@Damo said in Australia v South Africa:
@NTA said in Australia v South Africa:
@Damo said in Australia v South Africa:
Appalling runout there. That's Inzamam level stuff.
Bavuma in runout shock.... not.
Guy is fucking awful. Turned blind and then left his partner stranded.
The earlier runout was also terrible stuff.
They look like a lazy, disinterested, leaderless bunch. I expected more, but will take thrashing them as compensation.
When did SA become such bunnies?
7 innings without 200, and soon to be 8 innings.
Yet, last time they got over 200, they pantsed the poms
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@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Matt Hayden, but he was superb.
And a genuine Knob.
his daughter is a fox though
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@mariner4life said in Australia v South Africa:
@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Matt Hayden, but he was superb.
And a genuine Knob.
his daughter is a fox though
yep Grace she is.
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@mariner4life said in Australia v South Africa:
@Chris said in Australia v South Africa:
@MN5 said in Australia v South Africa:
Matt Hayden, but he was superb.
And a genuine Knob.
his daughter is a fox though
