2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby
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Information about signings for other teams than the Magpies is hardly published by the HBRU, so it's awesome if we find the odd mention here, or footnote there, saying that a player has signed with the Hawke's Bay Academy or one of our rep teams.
I assume several of the 2022 Academy players will still be in our Academy in 2023, but these are the first new names:
- Kade Manuel (Feilding HS) - halfback
- Hunter Morrison (Feilding HS) - lock
- Hame (Abraham) Luaki (Tangaroa College) - prop
The first two names come from this article:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300700644/retaining-homegrown-players-seen-as-key-to-lifting-turbos-stocks#comments@Higgins found Luaki in the 'The Blue Wall Series' published by the Herald.
As mentioned in the Hurricanes 2023 thread, Hunter Morrison is also a recipient of a National Development Contract and training with the Canes, just like Cooper Flanders and Harry Godfrey.
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Not sure this belongs here but something for @stargazer to follow up on
and about two minutes from the end of this one below there is a footnote that the kid featured in the one above and scorer of the final try below (Hame Luaki) has been signed up for the HB Academy. -
@Stargazer said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
I think Aaron Smith is working with one of our new Academy players (Kade Manuel) here.
Is it just the way it appears or have we gone less local than usual for our academy this year?
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@Nepia I'm not so sure about that. The HBRU never publishes the list of academy players, so basically we only pick up names from what's published in the media and posted by players themselves on social media.
Manawatū rugby has better media coverage than we have, so that's how the names of two of our new academy players are known (the two from Feilding HS), but that doesn't say anything about the number of Hawke's Bay players v number of players from elsewhere. We've always had a few non-locals.
It will be interesting to spot more names over the next few months, as both Napier and Hastings Boys' had some very good players in their squad and some of those have now left school.
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@Stargazer The pertinent bit is right at the end.
"At provincial level, where the opportunities at flyhalf are likely to first arise, Sullivan expects to spend the next two seasons in New Zealand’s largest city but notes that home is always calling: “I’ve always said that once my brother goes back home, I’m going back home.”
Undoubtedly, Magpies fans would rejoice to see Zarn and Bailyn back in the black and white hoops but first thing’s first for the younger brother: the current target is simply getting back to full health and making it through the Super Rugby Pacific pre-season."
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Just what I feared after Amelia Pasikala didn't get a spot in a Super Rugby Aupiki squad! She has signed with the Canterbury Bulldogs women's team and is on her way to Oz. That's the same team that former Tui Cortez Te Pou and former Black Ferns 7s star Gayle Broughton play for.
It's going to be hard enough for the Tui in the FPC Premiership, this year. Losing one of their best players to a pro-league team makes it even harder. This might have been prevented if, particularly, the Hurricanes Poua selectors hadn't ignored our players.
Edit: She'll not play for the senior team (with Broughton and Te Pou) that plays in the NSWRL Women's Premiership. She'll play for the Tarsha Gale Cup team of the Bulldogs. The Tarsha Gale Cup is the age grade and feeder competition for the NSWRL Women's Premiership.
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I found a little bit of info on the Feilding HS social media about two of our newest Academy players:
WILLIAM FONOHEMA (prop/hooker)
FAHS 2022
FAHS 1st XV ‘22
18 GAMES
65 points
Teams: 1st XV
2022: Hurricanes U18
2023->: Hawke’s Bay Rugby Academy
KADE MANUEL (halfback)
FAHS 2018-22
FAHS 1st XV 20-22
44 GAMES
65 points
Teams: U14As, Colts, 2nd XV, 1st xv
2022: Hurricanes U18; NZ Maori U18s
2023: Hawke's Bay Rugby Academy -
The HBRU has published the 2023 Academy squad. Below the picture, I've added schools and current clubs to the list, if I could find them.
Apart from Gus Brown, also Max Ratcliffe is missing from the list. Really disappointing. Not sure whether CJ Mienie is still at school, this year. If not, he's a big loss, too. I'm probably forgetting a few names.
William Fonohema (Feilding HS / ) - school leaver
Dylan Homan (St John's College / ?) - school leaver
Nathaniel Hauiti (Gisborne BHS / Napier Tech) - school leaver
Joshua Smith (there are a few players with this name, but I think it's the prop from St Peter's College) - school leaver
Nik Patumaka (Gisborne BHS / Napier Tech) - 2nd year
Brandon Televave (came to NZ from Tonga on a scholarship, but I couldn't find the school; it's an Auckland school / MAC) - 2nd year
Hame Lauaki (Tangaroa College / MAC)
Konradd Newland (Whanganui Collegiate / ?)
Tom Allan (Hastings BHS / Havelock North) - school leaver
Reuben Allan, Tom's brother, but not sure whether they're twins (Hastings BHS /Havelock North?)
Hunter Morrison (Whanganui Collegiate / ?)
Solomone Fono ( ?/ MAC) I could only find a South Canterbury player - who played club rugby for Temuka - with this name and a Tongan U20 player (2019). Not sure whether that's the same player.
Matt Monaghan ( King's College/ NOBM) - 2nd year
Cooper Flanders (Hastings BHS / Havelock North)
Kusitino Savea (Lindisfarne College / Taradale)
Patrick Tuifua (Lindisfarne College / ?)
Kade Manuel (Feilding HS / ?) - school leaver
Joell Russell (Napier BHS / ?) - school leaver?
Jordan Soli (Shirley Boys / ?)
Koby Deacon (Hastings Boys / ?) school leaver
Meni Manase ( Tangaroa College / MAC) - 2nd year
Bryson Ioane (Hastings BHS / ?)
Troydyn Bird (Hastings BHS / Hastings R&S)
Bethel Malasia (Napier BHS / Napier Tech)
Bryson Pakoti-Crawford (Hastings BHS / ?) - school leaver
Kere Penitito (St John's College / NOBM)
Josiah Sakaria (Hastings BHS / MAC)
Ezra Malo (Whanganui High School / Taradale) - 2nd year
Harry Godfrey (Whanganui Collegiate / Central HB)
Alex Philip (Inglewood HS? / Havelock North)
Michael Beech (St John's College / ?) - school leaver -
@Stargazer Excellent to see another Newlands becoming involved as a Hawkes Bay prop. Never forget that famous day where the scoreboard read Hawkes Bay 08 - 06 Wellington when Wellington finished one All Black prop less than they started with where another Newlands featured!
Nik Patumaka was a loose forward at NTOB last season so not sure whether his listing amongst frontrowers is an error or whether he has reinvented himself as a prop, something his bodyshape last year indicated was not remotely possible.
There don't look to be many former NBHS pupils involved. Are they just not up to it or have the gone onto Varsity or other acadamies?
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@Higgins said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Nepia Coming home to where Clint played is hardly called annexing.
I was more referencing the fact there are four of them from Whanganui Collegiate in there.
I guess with the Poo having no money these days we're the next option over.
I've always considered Poverty Bay part of our catchment area.
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@Nepia Just remembered that Wanganui have been going ok at Under 18s in the Hurricanes region the last couple of years so looks like we might have been picking the cream of those up and thumbing our noses at Darren Larsen in the process!
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@Higgins said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Stargazer Excellent to see another Newlands becoming involved as a Hawkes Bay prop. Never forget that famous day where the scoreboard read Hawkes Bay 08 - 06 Wellington when Wellington finished one All Black prop less than they started with where another Newlands featured!
I really had to check whether it was Clint Newland's son, because they added an "s" to his last name, but it just seems to be a typo. By the way, the two "d"s at the end of his first name aren't a typo!
Nik Patumaka was a loose forward at NTOB last season so not sure whether his listing amongst frontrowers is an error or whether he has reinvented himself as a prop, something his bodyshape last year indicated was not remotely possible.
There aren't too many loosies on this list, so maybe it's a mistake from their social media admin? I didn't see any comments on it on Facebook/instagram.
There don't look to be many former NBHS pupils involved. Are they just not up to it or have the gone onto Varsity or other acadamies?
Many of last year's 1st XV that made the Top 4 Final were year 12s, so many of them will still be at school. I think there will be plenty of motivation to go one better, this year! I saw a photo after the Top 4 (I can't find it anymore) that seemed to suggest that only 5-6 players of that team were leaving, including Gus Brown, Max Ratcliffe, Adam Curren and I think Angus Prout. Can't remember the other(s).
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@Nepia said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Higgins said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Nepia Coming home to where Clint played is hardly called annexing.
I was more referencing the fact there are four of them from Whanganui Collegiate in there.
I guess with the Poo having no money these days we're the next option over.
I've always considered Poverty Bay part of our catchment area.
Yep, Poverty Bay and East Coast. They also get players from us if they don't make the NPC squad. Carlos Kemp went very well steering East Coast to the Lochore Cup win!
Maybe Harry Godfrey and Ezra Malo set a new trend for Whanganui players?
Malo also played for Whanganui in the Heartland competition in 2022, despite being in our Academy.