Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out
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look, i realise this damn near a wind up but
the chances of R Ioane not starting at 13 next year are about the same as me getting the 6 jersey, so just stop predicting teams where he is playing 11. it's not fucking happening
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Not the team I would pick, but the team fozzie will pick...
1 De Groot
2 C Taylor
3 T Lomax
4 B Retalick
5 S Whitelock (c)
6 S Frizzel
7 S Cane
8 A Savea
9 A Smith
10 R Mounga
11 C Clarke
12 ALB
13 R Ioane
14 W Jordan
15 J Barrett
16 S Taukie’aho
17 Joe Moody
18 F Newell
19 S Barrett
20 D Papali
21 B Webber
22 B Barrett
23 D Havilli -
Churystal
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@Yeetyaah said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
Churystal
It's a common name for a stripper once it's past 1am you know??
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Since we are picking favourites instead of what is likely to be picked;
1 De Groot
2 Sami T
3 T Lomax
4 S Barrett
5 S Whitelock (c)
6 A Ioane
7 Dalton
8 A Savea
9 A Smith
10 DMac
11 C Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 M Telea
15 B Barrett
16 Taylor
17 Hodgeman
18 Ofa
19 Brodie
20 Sotutu
21 FInlay
22 ALB
23 Jordan -
@mariner4life he still can’t read a defence or set up his outsides
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@Stag said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
@mariner4life he still can’t read a defence or set up his outsides
Except for all the times he's the last pass for trys.
As for the D, I'd suggest the whole team is struggling under the luckiest defence coach in the world.
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@mariner4life said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
look, i realise this damn near a wind up but
the chances of R Ioane not starting at 13 next year are about the same as me getting the 6 jersey, so just stop predicting teams where he is playing 11. it's not fucking happening
if alb had dropped as many balls as R ioane against england this place wouldhave gone into meltdown
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@ploughboy if ALB had managed to string as many games together (more than a couple?) as RI has this year where he was one of only a handful to perform then that might be true...but i think RI has earnt a bit of forgiveness this season
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@Stag said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
@mariner4life he still can’t read a defence or set up his outsides
He needs more distribution. But the upside outweighs the downside right now
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You can put your money on one or 2 in the Foster preferred 23 to break down come WC time if history repeats.
And a bolter from somewhere. -
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We should be moving on from Moody as well. He'll be 35 when the RWC starts next year.
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S.Barrett was the outstanding 6 in 2022, but posters still have Ioane/Frizell there?
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@kiwi_expat said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
S.Barrett was the outstanding 6 in 2022, but posters still have Ioane/Frizell there?
He's the best lock we have, so people are picking him there (like me). Playing three locks is not the same as being good at 6. If we are going to play tight, then maybe, but it doesn't look like we are.
Don't disagree that both Akira and Frizzell haven't pulled a Dalton and said this jersey is mine, but that doesn't mean SB was the best 6. Kind of like Ardie, very good rugby player, probably not playing in his best position, but still playing well.
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@Kirwan i think thats where i am, its not that SB hasnt been good (not sure id go outstanding), but that three locks has a domino effect on the rest of the game
I'm also cautious of SW and BBBR with a RWC schedule, if SB is also the main cover for those guys to have a break then i'd rather he concentrate on that and develop another 6
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@Stag said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
@Bovidae Woodcock was 35 in 2015
And broke down in a pool game, missing all the playoff matches. Ironically, replaced by Moody.
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@Bovidae what are the odds that would happen again though.....
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forward i dont think will change to much the core group will make up the team.
of the backs only players i can see as quaranteed are smith,j barrett .ioane and jordan with ioane and jordan could be in a couple spots. for me barrett has to be at 12 -
@mariner4life said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
this is the worst @ACT-Crusader multi ever
Just for you
J. Moody
C. Taylor
F. Newell
S. Barrett
S. Whitelock
D. Gardiner
E. Blackadder
B. Harmon
W. Ever
R. Mo’unga
B. Ennor
J. Goodhue
L. Fainga’anuku
S. Reece
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@Kiwiwomble Woodcock was more durable than Moody has been at a similar age with the injuries. But most importantly, we need some more youth and mobility amongst the props.
They've made 3 bold selections this year for the props but keeping the likes of Laulala and Moody will be a repeat of 1991. Ofa can still provide the experience but needs to step up for the ABs. Bower offers something different in the group. That would mean there is space for another prop, which could be a LH or TH depending on where they play Ofa. Lots to play for in SR.
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Canes4lifereplied to mariner4life on 22 Nov 2022, 03:08 last edited by Canes4life 22 Nov 2022, 03:09
@mariner4life said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
look, i realise this damn near a wind up but
the chances of R Ioane not starting at 13 next year are about the same as me getting the 6 jersey, so just stop predicting teams where he is playing 11. it's not fucking happening
Lol I hope this post ages poorly. Ioane was a mess against England on the weekend and I certainly don't think he's nailed down that spot. If ALB/Goodhue or similar hit some decent form they could easily take back that 13 jersey considering they have better distribution skills. Plus, the Ioane/Clarke axis just doesn't work. One of them will have to move aside IMO.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
@ploughboy if ALB had managed to string as many games together (more than a couple?) as RI has this year where he was one of only a handful to perform then that might be true...but i think RI has earnt a bit of forgiveness this season
Maybe so but that still doesn't make him a world-class centre.
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@Bovidae said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
@Stag said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
@Bovidae Woodcock was 35 in 2015
And broke down in a pool game, missing all the playoff matches. Ironically, replaced by Moody.
Followed by Crockett going down and Manu coming in ... only uncapped RWC winner in history!
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@Windows97 said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
@Yeetyaah said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
Churystal
It's a common name for a stripper once it's past 1am you know??
That's where he got the team list.
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@Canes4life said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
@Kiwiwomble said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
@ploughboy if ALB had managed to string as many games together (more than a couple?) as RI has this year where he was one of only a handful to perform then that might be true...but i think RI has earnt a bit of forgiveness this season
Maybe so but that still doesn't make him a world-class centre.
i think his performance this year make him one...at very least the best option we have at 13 currently
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@Kiwiwomble hes the best option because everyone elsehas been injured
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@ploughboy lots would disagree but even if we concede that point....so? thats still better than someone who last played a great game multiple years ago
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You all know Foster will have a brain explosion next year and Put Reiko at HB.
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@Chris dont be stupid....not when we're calling out for a 6
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@Kiwiwomble said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
@Chris dont be stupid....not when we're calling out for a 6
Ahh shit I forgot 6 wasn't a lock in.
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Bolter for the squad as a 6 P. Ennis currently playing in the Reserve B team in the Thames Valley competition.
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1 De Groot
2 Sami T
3 T Lomax
4 Retallick
5 S Whitelock (c)
6 S Barrett
7 Dalton
8 A Savea
9 A Smith
10 Richie M
11 C Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 M Telea
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@BerniesCorner said in Chrystal Ball - WC starting team 12 months out:
1 De Groot
2 Sami T
3 T Lomax
4 Retallick
5 S Whitelock (c)
6 S Barrett
7 Dalton
8 A Savea
9 A Smith
10 Richie M
11 C Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 M Telea
15 W JordanPretty solid. Makeup of the bench will be crucial, as we discovered last weekend
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That last 10 minutes will benefit the ABs next year. What a shock.
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The big work ons I reckon are:
- Richie M - Jordie applying pressure by kicking long at times
- Cut out the dinky high risk defensive chip kicks
- Backline defence.
- Giving Jordan game time at 15
- BB impact sub
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