FIFA World Cup 2022
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@Bovidae said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
Argentina vs France would be the best final for a football spectacle.
Argentina will be missing both first-choice fullbacks for their SF.
So will France. Pavard and Lucas Hernandez. Also missing Kimpembe, Kante, Pogba, Benzema & Nkunku.
Agree that Argentina v France would be the best final. Morocco are dogged and I like the way they throw men forward when they do break but they looked to be running on empty by the end of their game. They park the bus really well though as do Croatia.
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@canefan said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
This is where sky is a problem. My sky box has no power so I can't record the game. If it was on demand like spark I could watch it later. Hopefully it's on demand on sky go but I'll have to run it through my phone and chrome cast as there is no sky go app on my tv
It's not there yet, but once the replay becomes available, you should be able to find it here on Sky Go:
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I really enjoyed that France v England game - not always the highest quality but compelling and you always felt a goal was coming at either end unlike the other quarter-finals.
In the end, France carved out the clearer chances whereas England played very well at times but didn't get the bit of luck they needed in the box.
Not really sure why so many people are complaining about the ref - England had 2 penalties and numerous attacking free kicks. The foul on Kane in the first half was outside the box which is why the VAR did not refer the ref to the monitor. English exasperation at EVERY decision was getting tedious by the end.
Crazy foul on Mount to give away the 2nd penalty. Tough on Kane to take it - the temptation to double and triple guess yourself must be huge given Lloris is a good shot stopper.
Final petty observation - Rashford's final free kick was not close despite it rippling the top of the net and it annoys me when commentators get excited about it. Lloris knew it was sailing over from the moment the kick was taken.
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It was very strange by Hernandez. Am I right in thinking that if the contact had been shoulder to shoulder (rather than to the back) it would have been legal?
I was surprised that Giroud didn't make more of a fuss when he was pushed in the back off the ball making a run into the box.
Agreed that that was a fun match though, I'm slightly afraid that that's going to end up a better match than either semi or the final.
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@Cyclops said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
It was very strange by Hernandez. Am I right in thinking that if the contact had been shoulder to shoulder (rather than to the back) it would have been legal?
Yes. The stupid thing is that Mount was never reaching the ball anyway as it was too high.
I was surprised that Giroud didn't make more of a fuss when he was pushed in the back off the ball making a run into the box.
I mentioned that earlier. The refs non-decisions went both ways. Michael Oliver is the only QF ref who seems to have escaped any criticism from players and the media.
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@Bovidae said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@Cyclops said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
It was very strange by Hernandez. Am I right in thinking that if the contact had been shoulder to shoulder (rather than to the back) it would have been legal?
Yes. The stupid thing is that Mount was never reaching the ball anyway as it was too high.
I was surprised that Giroud didn't make more of a fuss when he was pushed in the back off the ball making a run into the box.
I mentioned that earlier. The refs non-decisions went both ways. Michael Oliver is the only QF ref who seems to have escaped any criticism from players and the media.
I find it an amazing that a 'sporting' culture allows open criticism, accusation and name calling of officials tbh.
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@Crucial said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
I find it an amazing that a 'sporting' culture allows open criticism, accusation and name calling of officials tbh.
That culture starts on the field when players rush to the ref and get in their faces with complaints/whinges. It's a big black mark on the sport.
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Lol like rugby is really any fucking better these days
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@mariner4life said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
Lol like rugby is really any fucking better these days
Surely you’re joking?!!
When was the last time you saw 7 rugby players up in a refs face yelling and gesturing at him while he takes a few steps backwards?
Happens multiple times a game in soccer
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@KiwiMurph said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
All sports have their negatives - it is what it is.
Football has diving and referee intimidation
Rugby has ridiculous rules and stoppages.
Cricket tries to do anything not to play in the event of a hint of wet weather.
Basketball has flopping
Etc etc
*laws
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Cricket is the best from an officiating POV, compared to other sports there's very little controversy, the last CWC final excepted!!
Nearly every rugby game is centered around the refs these days, it's actually become really tiresome. It's an impossible game to ref, if people want it reffed to the letter then they'll have to put up with even more stoppages.
Soccer is an interesting one, the theatrics are all part of the sport really, players diving for penalties and trying to influence the ref as much as possible to get calls go their way is part of the tactics and the refs know it's coming. It'd take a pretty massive culture change to try and get rid of it from the game, and I'm not convinced everyone would want to see that aspect changed.
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@voodoo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
There should be warnings given with a swift move to a yellow card to any player yelling at a ref or getting in his face. March the free kick 10m as well, that would have a massive impact for any infringements 30-40m out
Watched certain players from Wales or Ireland recently.
But every nation now actively asks for cards
And then you get what happens after the game. Starting with the losing coach in the presser. Or a coach trying to get an important player off a suspension.
Rugby is not this paragon of virtue that some like to make it out to be. And those that do try are usually bell ends
Soccer is worse for that no doubt. But rugby has it's own diving and ref whinging, and both are getting worse.
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Karma’s a bitch
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@mariner4life the arm flapping at the ref in rugby which has been going on for years is another one I can’t stand.
@voodoo I honestly think that it will take a generation to change in football. If some ref today tried to stamp it out by handing out cards and warnings etc, he would probably be lynched after the match (that’s how bad it is)
