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@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Melody Bell draws gate 5 for the All Star Mile, and m4l's futures bet at $9 looks okay.
Alligator Blood draws wide, but who cares because he was heading for the front anyway.
It's one thing to beat your age group but when you are up against all open class, it's the real test.
I'm backing Melody Belle too.
Yeah its a great draw. Hopefully Opie can get her in a nice spot.
After that massive bias day at caulfield a few weeks back I put a $10 bb on Streets of Avalon at $61 for what would be a massive boilover but hey its a group 1 leader and loves to lead (and will). Never won at the distance tho but is a horse that holds form and Ben Melham has a great record on it. Worth a roll of the dice at those odds.
SO yeah think it will push across with Aligator Blood but Streets of Avalon push further forward and lead. AB then one back. Not a lot of pace in the race to be honest so could be interesting how it all unfolds. Really would love our girl Melody Belle to win this!
So would I. She really is the current queen of the turf here in NZ. Jamie Richards is a fabulous ambassador for our sport too.
i've heard good reports about her gallop the other day, big improvement from her last run
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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Melody Bell draws gate 5 for the All Star Mile, and m4l's futures bet at $9 looks okay.
Alligator Blood draws wide, but who cares because he was heading for the front anyway.
It's one thing to beat your age group but when you are up against all open class, it's the real test.
I'm backing Melody Belle too.
Yeah its a great draw. Hopefully Opie can get her in a nice spot.
After that massive bias day at caulfield a few weeks back I put a $10 bb on Streets of Avalon at $61 for what would be a massive boilover but hey its a group 1 leader and loves to lead (and will). Never won at the distance tho but is a horse that holds form and Ben Melham has a great record on it. Worth a roll of the dice at those odds.
SO yeah think it will push across with Aligator Blood but Streets of Avalon push further forward and lead. AB then one back. Not a lot of pace in the race to be honest so could be interesting how it all unfolds. Really would love our girl Melody Belle to win this!
So would I. She really is the current queen of the turf here in NZ. Jamie Richards is a fabulous ambassador for our sport too.
i've heard good reports about her gallop the other day, big improvement from her last run
She was always going to need the run
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@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Yeah Opie was very happy with the gallop. And they will be happy with the barrier too.
Some of the aussie Alligator Blood fans are getting a bit cocky. Lets hope the mighty mare can do it!
AB is a ripper, we all know that, and he towelled her up their last run. And it's Caulfield, where being at the front is a definite advantage. If she wins it will be huge.
Let's hope the forecast rain comes in.
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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Yeah Opie was very happy with the gallop. And they will be happy with the barrier too.
Some of the aussie Alligator Blood fans are getting a bit cocky. Lets hope the mighty mare can do it!
AB is a ripper, we all know that, and he towelled her up their last run. And it's Caulfield, where being at the front is a definite advantage. If she wins it will be huge.
Let's hope the forecast rain comes in.
I dont think those two have ever raced each other before have they?
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@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Yeah Opie was very happy with the gallop. And they will be happy with the barrier too.
Some of the aussie Alligator Blood fans are getting a bit cocky. Lets hope the mighty mare can do it!
AB is a ripper, we all know that, and he towelled her up their last run. And it's Caulfield, where being at the front is a definite advantage. If she wins it will be huge.
Let's hope the forecast rain comes in.
I dont think those two have ever raced each other before have they?
No, they haven't. He towelled up Catalyst who had gone shin sore. (Which is strange given what he has achieved. They usually do that earlier)
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@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Yeah Opie was very happy with the gallop. And they will be happy with the barrier too.
Some of the aussie Alligator Blood fans are getting a bit cocky. Lets hope the mighty mare can do it!
AB is a ripper, we all know that, and he towelled her up their last run. And it's Caulfield, where being at the front is a definite advantage. If she wins it will be huge.
Let's hope the forecast rain comes in.
I dont think those two have ever raced each other before have they?
No, they haven't. He towelled up Catalyst who had gone shin sore. (Which is strange given what he has achieved. They usually do that earlier)
my apologies, i thought she was in that race a few weeks ago. What was the one where she didn't really fire a shot, and came 3rd? Was that the Streets of Avalon G1?
That's the fucking problem with racing in this country now, too many big races with the same bloody horses in them, and they all kinda look the same.
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@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
I see Ben Footes filly, Travelling Light is lining up this weekend in Aussie after 4 weeks ago being spelled for going shin sore. That is usually 6 weeks in a paddock, no training.
Racing in an Aussie Group 1. Bizarre.
I must be talking more rubbish as I can't see her nominated anywhere.
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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Yeah Opie was very happy with the gallop. And they will be happy with the barrier too.
Some of the aussie Alligator Blood fans are getting a bit cocky. Lets hope the mighty mare can do it!
AB is a ripper, we all know that, and he towelled her up their last run. And it's Caulfield, where being at the front is a definite advantage. If she wins it will be huge.
Let's hope the forecast rain comes in.
I dont think those two have ever raced each other before have they?
No, they haven't. He towelled up Catalyst who had gone shin sore. (Which is strange given what he has achieved. They usually do that earlier)
my apologies, i thought she was in that race a few weeks ago. What was the one where she didn't really fire a shot, and came 3rd? Was that the Streets of Avalon G1?
That's the fucking problem with racing in this country now, too many big races with the same bloody horses in them, and they all kinda look the same.
Yeah that was the streets of avalon race on a day with the hugest of on pace biases. The run of MB was actually very good considering
Track was soft that day vs expected good this time but rail is still in same position at 6m out. We could get it again, especially if a bit of rain does come
edit - Actually it says it was a good track and rail out only 3m (which I dont think was right) so could be in for another shitstorm
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@Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
This will have an effect across the racing world. The equine welfare efforts have gone through the roof recently in Aus & NZ, but this will raise fresh questions in this part of the world. Much like human athletes, the vets/integrity bodies seem to be a few steps behind the latest drugs seeping into racing.
One of the trainers the FBI nailed is Jason Servis — the trainer of Maximum Security, arguably the world’s best racehorse. I’d hate to think he was running on the juice, I love that horse, but now there’s got to be a cloud hanging over him. Bob Baffert, America’s No. 1 trainer, picks up the duties. He’ll probably lay him off and bring him back a hundred pounds lighter. If...
I wonder if he’ll ever race again.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
This will have an effect across the racing world. The equine welfare efforts have gone through the roof recently in Aus & NZ, but this will raise fresh questions in this part of the world. Much like human athletes, the vets/integrity bodies seem to be a few steps behind the latest drugs seeping into racing.
One of the trainers the FBI nailed is Jason Servis — the trainer of Maximum Security, arguably the world’s best racehorse. I’d hate to think he was running on the juice, I love that horse, but now there’s got to be a cloud hanging over him. Bob Baffert, America’s No. 1 trainer, picks up the duties. He’ll probably lay him off and bring him back a hundred pounds lighter. If...
I wonder if he’ll ever race again.
Is he and entire or gelding?
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Still entire, I believe.
According to Wiki, it's not good:
*Servis was indicted on federal charges related to the administration of performance enhancing drugs to his stable on March 9, 2020. Maximum Security was allegedly administered a designer drug, SGF-1000, "intended to promote tissue repair and increase a horse's stamina and endurance." The FBI intercepted a phone call where Servis indicted concern that Maximum Security would test positive after being administered the drug shortly before a random drug test on June 5, 2019. Servis was advised that there was "no test for it (SGF-1000) in America", but that the test might show a false positive for a different drug, "dex" (assumed to be Dexamethasone). A veterinarian subsequently agreed to alter Maximum Security's records to falsely show the horse was administered "dex".[29]
Because of the charges, some industry leaders have considered whether Maximum Security should be stripped of the Eclipse Award he won as a three-year-old, especially if subsequent testing reveals previously undetected drug positives.[30*
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The indictment specifically alleges that a designer, performance-enhancing substance was administered to Maximum Security in 2019, when he was named champion 3-year-old male.
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Daily Racing Form:
Navarro, Servis, others arrested Monday face up to 10 years on federal conspiracy charges
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A person who has experience in federal prosecutions of the nature outlined in the indictments who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to his position in the racing industry said that the information contained in the indictments – and the fact that many of the individuals on the other side of intercepted phone calls were unnamed – indicated that the investigation is still ongoing. According to the person, the federal government is likely to spend the next two weeks attempting to reach plea bargains with some individuals to provide testimony against others, including those not already indicted.
“This is just the starting point,” the person said. “This is going to get ugly. It really will.”
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Maximum Security moved to Baffert's barn
Maximum Security moved to Baffert's barn
Maximum Security, the 2019 3-year-old champion and recent winner of the inaugural $20 million Saudi Cup, will be moved to trainer Bob Baffert in the wake of the indictment of the horse’s trainer, Jason Servis, co-owner Gary West said in a statement released early Tuesday morning.
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Oneloveonelife debuting on Saturday for the other syndicate I'm involved with.
Tough ask for him as he's straight into a Group 3 race at Wyndham (R7) and up against some tidy Canterbury types (he's trained in Southland). Best case scenario would be for him to sneak into a placing after being saved for one run. He's at 21s and 3.30 which is entirely fair.
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Caulfield to run without spectators or owners tomorrow.
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Maximum Security (horse) - Wikipedia
