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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Also posted in another thread:

    The All Blacks coach said Cane had suffered a fractured cheekbone in the match at National Stadium, while veteran hooker Coles has succumbed to a calf injury which had seen him a late scratching from Saturday’s test.

    Canterbury and Highlanders loose forward Billy Harmon, and Wellington, Hurricanes, and six-test hooker Asafo Aumua – both of whom were part of the All Blacks XV squad – have been called up for the remaining tests against Wales, Scotland and England.


    Foster also confirmed lock Patrick Tuipulotu and playmaker Damian McKenzie would rejoin the ABs XV squad, while winger Mark Telea – a late call-up after Leicester Fainga’anuku went home for family reasons – would stay on with the All Blacks as Will Jordan will stay on in New Zealand to get over his inner ear issue.

    So the AB XVs lose Harmon and Aumua, meaning that the AB XV are left with two hookers (McAlister and Thompson). Either Aumua will still be available to them in case of injury (if he doesn't get game time for the ABs), or they'll call up another hooker. You'd think that Eklund or Marshall will be the frontrunners.

    More interesting is the loose forward position. Of the loosies in this squad, Harmon was the only one who regularly plays at 7 (at least in Super Rugby). Will they call up a specialist 7? Tom Christie is probably the most likely selection if they want a specialist 7. Not sure who else.

    Interestingly, that article doesn't say whether Weber will stay with the ABs or will rejoin the ABXV squad. I hope they keep him with the ABs, because the alternative would be TJP.

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    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

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    @Bovidae Yeah, true, totally forgot about him.

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    @Crucial Not necessarily. There are only three outside backs in the squad.

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    @Crucial If I was Ireland A I'd be keen to face a RTS-Ennor midfield.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

    100% has to be Kirifi but with Ryan in there as a selector it will end up being Christie.

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  • Canes4lifeC Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by Canes4life
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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

    Also posted in another thread:

    The All Blacks coach said Cane had suffered a fractured cheekbone in the match at National Stadium, while veteran hooker Coles has succumbed to a calf injury which had seen him a late scratching from Saturday’s test.

    Canterbury and Highlanders loose forward Billy Harmon, and Wellington, Hurricanes, and six-test hooker Asafo Aumua – both of whom were part of the All Blacks XV squad – have been called up for the remaining tests against Wales, Scotland and England.


    Foster also confirmed lock Patrick Tuipulotu and playmaker Damian McKenzie would rejoin the ABs XV squad, while winger Mark Telea – a late call-up after Leicester Fainga’anuku went home for family reasons – would stay on with the All Blacks as Will Jordan will stay on in New Zealand to get over his inner ear issue.

    So the AB XVs lose Harmon and Aumua, meaning that the AB XV are left with two hookers (McAlister and Thompson). Either Aumua will still be available to them in case of injury (if he doesn't get game time for the ABs), or they'll call up another hooker. You'd think that Eklund or Marshall will be the frontrunners.

    More interesting is the loose forward position. Of the loosies in this squad, Harmon was the only one who regularly plays at 7 (at least in Super Rugby). Will they call up a specialist 7? Tom Christie is probably the most likely selection if they want a specialist 7. Not sure who else.

    Interestingly, that article doesn't say whether Weber will stay with the ABs or will rejoin the ABXV squad. I hope they keep him with the ABs, because the alternative would be TJP.

    Lol Perenara easily outplayed Weber in the NPC. Weber is overated. Roigard should be the one starting for the All Black’s XV. He’s the future and right now he’s playing the best footy out of him Weber and Perenara.

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

    The same Kirifi who is derided on here as being a useless dumb thug?

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

    The same Kirifi who is derided on here as being a useless dumb thug?

    I can’t recall reading any of that. Don’t think it is the general accepted view at all.
    I think he is limited as far as the top end of the game goes but otherwise is a busy effective player that has matured quite a bit in the last year and a bit.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

    100% has to be Kirifi but with Ryan in there as a selector it will end up being Christie.

    Don't think it will be Kirifi, I think he may just be considered to small for test rugby?

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  • Canes4lifeC Offline
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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

    100% has to be Kirifi but with Ryan in there as a selector it will end up being Christie.

    Don't think it will be Kirifi, I think he may just be considered to small for test rugby?

    Harmon and Christie aren’t big either.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

    The same Kirifi who is derided on here as being a useless dumb thug?

    I can’t recall reading any of that. Don’t think it is the general accepted view at all.
    I think he is limited as far as the top end of the game goes but otherwise is a busy effective player that has matured quite a bit in the last year and a bit.

    You don't? Even in the NPC final thread, a game in which he played pretty well, he was slagged off. Don't get me wrong, I like him and if given the chance he will give everything. Not saying you were one of the ones slagging him off over the last few years, but I find it amusing some are now calling for him to be selected. Hopefully they aren't the same posters who have been up him.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Crazy Horse on last edited by
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    @Crazy-Horse I think most of the negative comments were mainly posted in 2020/2021, when he was a real a-hole and gave away a lot of penalties. Although he sometimes still shows those traits now and then, he has been much more disciplined this year, and had a good NPC season.

    Still think Harmon is the better player though, more versatile too. As to Christie, he had a very good year, too, but I think he's pretty limited.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

    The same Kirifi who is derided on here as being a useless dumb thug?

    I can’t recall reading any of that. Don’t think it is the general accepted view at all.
    I think he is limited as far as the top end of the game goes but otherwise is a busy effective player that has matured quite a bit in the last year and a bit.

    You don't? Even in the NPC final thread, a game in which he played pretty well, he was slagged off. Don't get me wrong, I like him and if given the chance he will give everything. Not saying you were one of the ones slagging him off over the last few years, but I find it amusing some are now calling for him to be selected. Hopefully they aren't the same posters who have been up him.

    Well I think only a couple of posters have called for him to be called up. Most likely not the same ones you are thinking of.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    @Stargazer somewhere I thought Eklund has already been called up. No?

    Aumua has to stay with the ABs to guard against a similar incident to yesterday.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Kirifi should be the player to replace Harmon. Outplayed Christie in the NPC final and finished the season strongly. But Christie plays for Canterbury...

    Tuipulotu might end up being back with the ABs once the AB XV tour is finished.

    Will be quite the snub if Kirifi isnt called in IMO.

    So if RTS and Ennor are joining that that mean they push aside the midfield already there?

    100% has to be Kirifi but with Ryan in there as a selector it will end up being Christie.

    Meh it's much of a muchness. Two small 7s - one with horrendous discipline - and one who offers very little on one side of the ball.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @booboo Nope, Thompson was called up to replace Bell.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

    @booboo Nope, Thompson was called up to replace Bell.

    Who replaced McAlister?

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @booboo No one. He's still there.

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