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    Gilbert is very useful at fullback thanks to his massive boot. That said, I know nada about Bogado.

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    @cgrant one of the issues for me is we're just not playing well enough to get our outsides into the kind of space needed to work as a second playmaker (in the case of Gilbert) or to make meters in the case of our wings

    im starting to think we need to get Gilbert where the action is (12) and this work well with the idea of projecting TuJ a little

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    The spanner in the works could be the fact Gilbert went off injured at halftime on the weekend. If we move Gilbert to the midfield, I'd be tempted to keep Timu in the team, on the wing. In reality, all these changes are hardly going to help the side turn the corner.

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    @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2023:

    The spanner in the works could be the fact Gilbert went off injured at halftime on the weekend. If we move Gilbert to the midfield, I'd be tempted to keep Timu in the team, on the wing. In reality, all these changes are hardly going to help the side turn the corner.

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    @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2023:

    The spanner in the works could be the fact Gilbert went off injured at halftime on the weekend. If we move Gilbert to the midfield, I'd be tempted to keep Timu in the team, on the wing. In reality, all these changes are hardly going to help the side turn the corner.

    no...but without this type of discussion this whole thread is just us being sad about losing again....

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    Forwards, halfback and 1st Five look OK but the backline is a worry.

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    Well, another week, now we are highly likely to see another re-jigged squad. Players likely to be injured for next week; Burns, Hunt, Ma'u, Tu'u Parkinson, Nareki and Gilbert. Unsure about Lowe, Timu, Thwaites and Gregory.

    There will be some very green faces running out next weekend. At full strength we would have to work hard to compete, our line up next weekend is a long way away from what could be our top line side. I think the Force should be going into next weekend quite confident.

    My guess at the next squad;
    de Groot
    Marshall
    Ainsley
    Holland
    Dickson
    Frizzell
    Harmon
    Renton

    Overall the forward pack can hold its own against pretty much anyone in the competition.

    Smith
    Millar
    Dawai
    Umaga-Jensen
    Timu/Te Hiwi
    Lowe/Bogado
    Connor Garden-Bachop

    Apisai
    Johnstone
    PJ Sheck
    Will Tucker
    Withy
    Fakatava
    ???/Faleafaga/some provincial rugby battler who isn't in America?
    Te Hiwi/not sure

    The backs and the replacements are looking really dire.

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    @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2023:

    The backs and the replacements are looking really dire.

    Might be worth going for a 6/2 split? Could get more value out of the extra forward?

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    @Duluth said in Highlanders 2023:

    @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2023:

    The backs and the replacements are looking really dire.

    Might be worth going for a 6/2 split? Could get more value out of the extra forward?

    Yeah can get another of Lentjes or Broughton on the bench. They'll be better than Mr question mark

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    @SouthernMann Has PJ Sheck been called into the main squad now? I saw he played for the Bravehearts yesterday.

    Scott Gregory is out for another 6-8 weeks unfortunately.

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    Riley Hohepa might be the provincial battler who gets called in. Has spent time with Moana, currently at the Hurricanes.

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    @mikedogz Agreed! Not sure if he’d be called in though.

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    @HLD2023Champions said in Highlanders 2023:

    @SouthernMann Has PJ Sheck been called into the main squad now? I saw he played for the Bravehearts yesterday.

    Scott Gregory is out for another 6-8 weeks unfortunately.

    I would assume he is training with the squad and available if he had a run with the development team

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    Highlanders Team this week?

    1. de Groot
    2. Marshall
    3. Ainsley
    4. Holland
    5. Dickson
    6. Frizell
    7. Harmon (c)
    8. Renton
    9. Fakatava
    10. Smith
    11. Dawai
    12. Umaga-Jensen
    13. Timu (?)
    14. Bogado
    15. Gilbert
    16. Makalio
    17. DLB
    18. Sheck
    19. Hicks
    20. Withy
    21. Millar
    22. Paea (Te Hiwi if Timu injured)
    23. Broughton
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    The news on the injury front is more positive.

    Pari Pari Parkinson is out after leaving the field visibly groggy against the Chiefs, while No 10/No 15 Freddie Burns is in doubt, which means Southland-born playmaker Cam Millar could be in line for a Highlanders debut in front of a home crowd.

    Mitch Hunt, Sam Gilbert, Jonah Lowe and Josh Timu are all a chance to play, and Billy Harmon will captain the team.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131487262/aaron-smith-says-jamie-joseph-and-tony-brown-would-bring-leadership-and-innovation-to-the-all-blacks

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    Kiwiwomble
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    i was away over the weekend, havent watched the game and not sure i want to...all seems too painful, glad i thought twice about suggesting PPP in the Bolters thread

    probably jinxing it...but god id love one of those once in a generation performances where someone just comes out and redefines a position (DC 2005 v lions)...millar to score +30

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    I think the Highlanders should be bringing Otago and Southland together to work out what to do with the number of players Otago has stacked up at 10/15, and work out whether a loan deal might assist in player development.

    For the NPC later in the year; Otago will have Josh Ioane (is he around this year?), Cam Millar, Villi Koroi, Ajay Faleafaga, Finn Hurley and Sam Gilbert competing for spots at 10/15 and some even able to play at 12 (Gilbert, Ioane and Faleafaga).

    I think it would be worth considering whether some of the guys originally from Southland should be loaned back to them (Hurley and potentially Millar) to ensure they get game time. While putting load management conditions on the loans. In saying that, Koroi has probably well and truly slipped down the pecking order.

    We need all these guys playing rugby to get a good understanding of their levels. If they are all locked up with Otago during the provincial season, it may be difficult.

    We will be facing a similar issue with the young loosies coming through as well. Just not to the same level.

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    Kiwiwomble
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    @SouthernMann in principle, yeah, maybe

    practically though, Voroi plays 4 time on the wing for every time he's at 10/15, Hurley and Faleafaga will be getting bench time at most t ease them in

    so, really we have Gilbert as prefered 15 and Ioane and millar playing for 10...one or two injuries and we'd be in trouble or having to rely on kids

    lets not get to cocky and just see how we go

    Ioane cant hang around much longer, he's not originally from otago and NPC cant be enough to keep him hanging around

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2023:

    Ioane cant hang around much longer, he's not originally from otago and NPC cant be enough to keep him hanging around

    That's why I would be of the mentality it is a loan deal. Go down there and we can pull you back, if and when needed.

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