BOP police in Kawerau
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<p>anyone else wondering how the feck 4 AOS guys - kitted up to all hell and well trained... can get shot with a shot gun and then a .22?</p>
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<p>were they ambushed? every cop entry i've seen they go in guns up and ready but it sounds like didn't even get any shots off.</p>
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<p>seems a bit odd.</p>
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<p>might be tied in with the report i read saying the plane just heard shots. they may have just been door knocking or something. Maybe they thought the shots did come from shooting range and they weren't really expecting anything to go down.</p>
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<p>regardless the family are fcuktards for saying it wasn't him shooting at the plane.. that is completely irrelevant anyway cause it's no excuse for shooting at some cops!</p> -
<p>i did just read that there was an exchange of gun fire</p>
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<p>anyone else wondering how the feck 4 AOS guys - kitted up to all hell and well trained... can get shot with a shot gun and then a .22?</p>
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<p>were they ambushed? every cop entry i've seen they go in guns up and ready but it sounds like didn't even get any shots off.</p>
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<p>seems a bit odd.</p>
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<p>might be tied in with the report i read saying the plane just heard shots. they may have just been door knocking or something. Maybe they thought the shots did come from shooting range and they weren't really expecting anything to go down.</p>
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<p>regardless the family are fcuktards for saying it wasn't him shooting at the plane.. that is completely irrelevant anyway cause it's no excuse for shooting at some cops!</p>
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<p>Well they're human and they wouldn't know the area like the offender, think of every time you walk into a new house and you take a second or two to get your bearings. Now think of having a fraction of that time in an extremely volatile situation. Doesn't really compare. Four getting hit and none of them dying is extremely fortuitous though, back in the 1940s the same happened and all of them died in an incident which got the NZ AOS set up immediately afterwards in case such events happened again.</p>
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<p>NZ is lucky, in our entire history there's still only 29 cops killed in the line of duty. That's a stat to be proud of even if one was a relative of mine.</p>
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<p>Regarding pistol accuracy I've fired a glock at the range and I'm a fairly decent shot, much better with a shotgun or rifle though. One analogy one bloke made to me was how easy it is to answer questions on Who wants to be a millionaire while sitting on the couch at home, it's another thing entirely to do it under pressure. As for all that Gangsta N*ga movie shit of holding the gun sideways you'd be fucken lucky to hit a door from a metre or two away.</p> -
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<p>Regarding pistol accuracy I've fired a glock at the range and I'm a fairly decent shot, much better with a shotgun or rifle though. </p>
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<p>Everyone is thanks to the difference in barrel lengths.</p>
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<p>For most people, if the target is >10m away, they're better off throwing the pistol.</p> -
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<p>I've been to the shooting range also... and fired a glock.</p>
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<p>They are not as inaccurate as the above posters all believe. </p>
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<p>You're the exception then, I'm sure you could put a round through a fleas ass from 200 metres even under periods of extreme stress.</p> -
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<p>I've been to the shooting range also... and fired a glock.</p>
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<p>They are not as inaccurate as the above posters all believe. </p>
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I regularly fire a glock and I can assure you SammyC you don't want to be doing it for real at much over ten metres. And that is if the nice man trying to kill you kindly stays in the one spot long enough for you to hit him.
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<p>I regularly fire a glock and I can assure you SammyC you don't want to be doing it for real at much over ten metres. And that is if the nice man trying to kill you kindly stays in the one spot long enough for you to hit him.</p>
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<p>That's cos you're doing it wrong Crazy Horse, you're supposed to shoot him in the leg, don't you know anything ?</p> -
<p>Calm down mate... we shot at a non moving target of course. </p>
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<p>That's cos you're doing it wrong Crazy Horse, you're supposed to shoot him in the leg, don't you know anything ?</p>
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<p>Calm down mate... we shot at a non moving target of course. </p>
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<p>So how does you theory about shooting an assailant in the leg work out then? You bet your life on making that shot? Or are you just prepared to bet other peoples lives?</p> -
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<p>You'd all be safe from me. I went clay pigeon shooting and didn't hit a fucking thing.<br><br>
I hate fucking pigeons. Especially those fucking clay ones!<br><br>
Course, I was trying to hit them in the leg....</p>
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<p>Shooting is a funny thing, I went claybirding with a mate of mine who was best in 3rd form with a rifle ( 97 out of 100, I got 70 odd ) I was much better at the claybirds though, he took 9 shots to even hit his first one whereas I got 8 out of 10 first time. ( clearly there was a couple of misfires in there )</p> -
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<p>So how does you theory about shooting an assailant in the leg work out then? You bet your life on making that shot? Or are you just prepared to bet other peoples lives?</p>
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<p>Well I assumed that police have a little more training than me in the art of shooting a gun.</p>
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<p>But I forgot, it's the New Zealand police force.</p>
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<p>Bunch of corrupt incompetent dickheads in my opinion...... :fishing:</p>
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<p>lets see how many pages of outrage I can get from that one statement</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="563886" data-time="1457665015"><p>Shooting is a funny thing, I went claybirding with a mate of mine who was best in 3rd form with a rifle ( 97 out of 100, I got 70 odd ) I was much better at the claybirds though, he took 9 shots to even hit his first one whereas I got 8 out of 10 first time. ( clearly there was a couple of misfires in there )</p></blockquote>
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Claybirds very different to a rifle IMHO , you get way more time to aim since the targets not moving obviously , you probably have way better hand eye coordination than your mate . Speaking of which I bet Nick Willis hand eye coordination must be out of this world and he's probably slowing down a bit with age, maybe his Olympic future is in the skeet team? -
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<p>Well I assumed that police have a little more training than me in the art of shooting a gun.</p>
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<p>But I forgot, it's the New Zealand police force.</p>
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<p>Bunch of corrupt incompetent dickheads in my opinion...... :fishing:</p>
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<p>lets see how many pages of outrage I can get from that one statement</p>
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<p>Are you trying to be ironic or funny or are there bases to these accusations ?</p>
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<p>I think I have your type pegged, the kind that whinge about the awful police state you live in run by Nazi pigs who oppress your right to grow illegal hydroponics and do nothing but sit on their arses giving tickets yet also the first to cry if they don't red light to your place in two seconds flat if you hear something go bump in the night.</p> -
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<p>Are you trying to be ironic or funny or are there bases to these accusations ?</p>
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<p>I think I have your type pegged, the kind that whinge about the awful police state you live in run by Nazi pigs who oppress your right to grow illegal hydroponics and do nothing but sit on their arses giving tickets yet also the first to cry if they don't red light to your place in two seconds flat if you hear something go bump in the night.</p>
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<p>Yeah you know me so well. </p>
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<p>Examples..... </p>
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<p>Lets start with the 2007 commission of enquiry into police conduct (identified 300 women who had suffered from police misconduct).. and Greg O'Connors response in 2012 when asked if they had implemented the reccomendations in said report (called it "ritulistic humiliation of the police force)</p>
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<p>What about Louise Nicholas and those arseholes Shipton and Schollum?</p>
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<p>Tena Pora? Lets frame a young slow brown kid instead of looking at the evidence</p>
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<p>David Tamiheri? plenty within the NZ legal communtiy who consider this a police stitch up</p> -
<p>on the basis of your posts over a few topics, there isn't much you like about NZ, why are you still here, or are you tied to your desk?</p>
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<p>Oh, and I know a lot of cops, and I guarantee not a single one is corrupt or an incompetent dickehads.</p>