Origin 2022
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@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
@Nepia said in Origin 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in Origin 2022:
@Nepia said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
Origin fucking needs an edge or it will die.
Here's hoping. Nah, I think it's fine for you blokes who want to watch, I just wish that it would get reevaluated and viewed below test footy.
Origin's footprint has been vanishing though even just since I've been living here. There's no marketing for it in Sydney at a time when the place is full with people due to Vivid. There used to be banners and I'd see promotions with Hindy and Fletch out and about. I haven't even seen an advertisement about it this year.
Origin likely gets more viewers around the world than some test match so would be challenging to place it below it or elevate tests.
Other than World Cups (and again they are a bit of a laugh), league tests don’t really mean much given it has been a club based focused sport for generations.
That has coincided with the rise of origin and the NRL being all powerful. Test league used to be hugely popular.
maybe the much vaunted "kangaroo tour" but all of my memories are the very few stirring NZ victories in between getting fucking pumped by Aus.
Now test league is an absolute joke, with every single team bar the poms being made up of Aussies who can find a link to the other nation somehow. And NZ losing guys who would once play for the kiwis, so we're shit too.
Origin started a decline with the rise of the QLd team that won every year, coinciding with the crackdown on the biff
At it's best, Origin was brutal football played with real passion. it was big hits, the softening up period, and the ever present chance of a stink
Now? it's basically like the Grand Final. Far more sanitised, far more corporate. Far more analytical. And the players probably didn't even grow up in the "hate" era. And look, it's lost some appeal.I loved those Kangaroo tour games and still loved seeing the Kiwis play (yeah probably more enjoyable against Great Britain than Oz as we were in with a shot in those games).
What's most annoying is that we're in an era when we can compete with the Kangaroos regularly and we barely get to play them.
Like I said, all good for you guys who enjoy watching it - but is the biff a bit exaggerated or is my memory faulty? Even from my days of intensely watching it I only really remember Geyer and Lewis. But I remember most of the big stuff from that era as it had a bunch of my favourite players - essentially all from NSW (Daley, Clyde, Lyons etc) and Steve Renouf.
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@Nepia said in Origin 2022:
What's most annoying is that we're in an era when we can compete with the Kangaroos regularly and we barely get to play them
we really are not. We are not even close.
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@mariner4life maybe we were before the emergence of Tonga as a league team but not since
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@bayimports said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life maybe we were before our the emergence of Tonga as a league team but not since
most especially once Tonga and even Samoa became viable options, all those "kiwis" have chosen elsewhere.
There are still a couple of top draw kiwis, but there aren't a lot, especially in the main positions.
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@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
@Nepia said in Origin 2022:
What's most annoying is that we're in an era when we can compete with the Kangaroos regularly and we barely get to play them
we really are not. We are not even close.
I said compete, not win. You're from a bay team that doesn't win all the time like me so shouldn't need constant wins to maintain your support.
Also, isn't the Tongan thing is a bit over done. Outside of JT, Taukeiaho, and Fonua-Blake (who was basically a fairweather Kiwi anyway) who else would the Kiwis want to select this year that will run out for Tonga?
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right now if we got within 30 i would be impressed
James Fisher Harris is almost the best prop in the game.
Joey Manu arguably the best centre (also the best looking)She gets a bit bare after that. Hughes nailed on to one half spot.
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@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
@bayimports said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life maybe we were before our the emergence of Tonga as a league team but not since
most especially once Tonga and even Samoa became viable options, all those "kiwis" have chosen elsewhere.
There are still a couple of top draw kiwis, but there aren't a lot, especially in the main positions.
The Kiwis have barely an NRL level quality spine let alone one that can compete with the best of the best from OZ.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
@bayimports said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life maybe we were before our the emergence of Tonga as a league team but not since
most especially once Tonga and even Samoa became viable options, all those "kiwis" have chosen elsewhere.
There are still a couple of top draw kiwis, but there aren't a lot, especially in the main positions.
The Kiwis have barely an NRL level quality spine let alone one that can compete with the best of the best from OZ.
although we do have a good hooker who can play prop ha ha.... and I am not talking about Jazz
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@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
@bayimports said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life maybe we were before our the emergence of Tonga as a league team but not since
most especially once Tonga and even Samoa became viable options, all those "kiwis" have chosen elsewhere.
And with so many Tongans and Samoans being brought up in Australia, those two teams are only going to get stronger.
The pool of islander players in Australia is pretty impressive - even if the Kangaroos nab a few of them, there's still so much talent left over for the islands.
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Ya bloody pessimists. I'm always confident ... for the first 5 minutes at least.
Ah well, enjoy your Aussie lovefest tonight - I might watch the highlights over breakfast on that dud Kayo app so I can rejoin the thread tomorrow and pretend to have a clue what I'm talking about.
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8.12
Still no kick off
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@mariner4life Australia needs to have a national conversation about starting footy games on time.
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Why was that try overruled?
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