Best of all time?
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@ACT-Crusader said in Best of all time?:
1- J. Moody
2- C. Taylor
3- O. Franks
4- C. Jack
5- S. Whitelock
6- R. Thorne
7- R. McCaw
8- K. Read
9- J. Marshall
10- D. Carter
11- M. Vunibaka
12- A. Mauger
13- C. Laulala
14- R. Gear
15- L. MacDonald16- C. Flynn
17- W. Crockett
18- G. Somerville
19- N. Maxwell
20- M. Todd
21- A. Ellis
22- A. Mehterns
23- C. RalphWider squad - M. Hammett, G. Feek, S. Barrett, M. Tuialiāi, B. Hall, R. Moāunga, D. Gibson, N. Nadolo
lol where is Scott Hamilton
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@bayimports said in Best of all time?:
@ACT-Crusader said in Best of all time?:
1- J. Moody
2- C. Taylor
3- O. Franks
4- C. Jack
5- S. Whitelock
6- R. Thorne
7- R. McCaw
8- K. Read
9- J. Marshall
10- D. Carter
11- M. Vunibaka
12- A. Mauger
13- C. Laulala
14- R. Gear
15- L. MacDonald16- C. Flynn
17- W. Crockett
18- G. Somerville
19- N. Maxwell
20- M. Todd
21- A. Ellis
22- A. Mehterns
23- C. RalphWider squad - M. Hammett, G. Feek, S. Barrett, M. Tuialiāi, B. Hall, R. Moāunga, D. Gibson, N. Nadolo
lol where is Scott Hamilton
Working at a hat factoryā¦
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@ACT-Crusader I'm talking for impact off the bench, reckon Norm would have more, almost be inclined to start Ralph at 11 for those reasons you said.
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@taniwharugby said in Best of all time?:
@ACT-Crusader I'm talking for impact off the bench, reckon Norm would have more, almost be inclined to start Ralph at 11 for those reasons you said.
Ralph interestingly enough scored quite a few of his tries coming off the bench. It was a tough call between him and Nadolo for the bench back.
Vuninbaka was a beast for us.
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@ACT-Crusader ok then
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M Allen
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D Coles
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N Tialata
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Ginger maori
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J Thrush
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J Collins
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A Savea
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V Vito
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P Weepu
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B Barrett
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J Lomu
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M Nonu
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C Smith
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T Umaga
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C Cullen
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A Hore
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B Franks
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G Slater
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B Mika
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C Masoe
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TJ Perenara
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J Gopperth
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C Jane
Wider squad: J Savea, R Sooialo, J Eaton, J To'omaga-Allen, H Gear, A Ieremia, N Milner-Skudder
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@ACT-Crusader said in Best of all time?:
@taniwharugby said in Best of all time?:
@ACT-Crusader I'm talking for impact off the bench, reckon Norm would have more, almost be inclined to start Ralph at 11 for those reasons you said.
Ralph interestingly enough scored quite a few of his tries coming off the bench. It was a tough call between him and Nadolo for the bench back.
Vuninbaka was a beast for us.
How bout James Kerr ?
I hope he still gets accosted to this day for a free Canterbury Draught from you guys for the try he got.
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Sevu Reece is a better winger than Ralph.
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A more interesting exercise might be to name a best XV of NZ players who have played for another international team. Tony Marsh and Frank Bunce would be a tasty midfield.
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@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
1. T Woodcock (nz)
2. K Wood (ire)
3. O Brown (nz)
4. M Johnson (eng)
5. J Eales (aus)
6. J Burger (nam)
7. R McCaw (nz)
8. Z Brooke (nz)
9. G Edwards (wal)
10. D Carter (nz)
11. J Lomu (nz)
12. M Nonu (nz)
13. B O'Driscoll (ire)
14. D Campese (aus)
15. C Cullen (nz)16. O Du Rant (sa)
17. S Fitzpatrick (nz)
18. P Vickery (eng)
19. V Matfield (sa)
20. J Collins (nz)
21. F Du Preez (sa)
22. J Wilkinson (eng)
23. J Robinson (eng)No frogs? I loved watching Blanco but can't take Cully out. However, I would certainly have Sella ahead of BOD
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@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
@ACT-Crusader ok then
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M Allen
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D Coles
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N Tialata
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Ginger maori
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J Thrush
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J Collins
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A Savea
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V Vito
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P Weepu
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B Barrett
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J Lomu
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M Nonu
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C Smith
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T Umaga
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C Cullen
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A Hore
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B Franks
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G Slater
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B Mika
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C Masoe
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TJ Perenara
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J Gopperth
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C Jane
Wider squad: J Savea, R Sooialo, J Eaton, J To'omaga-Allen, H Gear, A Ieremia, N Milner-Skudder
An embarrassment of riches for outside backs over the years.
Iād have Rodders ahead of Masoe for the bench spot. The Mika v Eaton call is a 50/50 for me.
Also Jordie has gone ahead of Gopperth.
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y'all put too much head in to this and not enough heart
no way would i be making a chiefs one without Jonno Gibbes, Marty Holah, Liam Messam, Tanerau Latimer, of Stevy Donald no matter if there are "better" players available
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1 Mako Vunipola
2 Dylan Hartley
3 Uini Atonio/Taniela Tupou
4 Joe Tekori
5 Will Skelton
6 Michael Leitch
7 Michael Jones
8 Billy Vunipola
9 Kahn Fotuali'i
10 Quade Cooper
11 Virimi Vakatawa
12 Tony Marsh
13 Frank Bunce
14 James Lowe
15 Shane Howarth -
@Tim nice foreign legion XV
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@Tim said in Best of all time?:
1 Mako Vunipola
2 Dylan Hartley
3 Uini Atonio/Taniela Tupou
4 Joe Tekori
5 Will Skelton
6 Michael Leitch
7 Michael Jones
8 Billy Vunipola
9 Kahn Fotuali'i
10 Quade Cooper
11 Virimi Vakatawa
12 Tony Marsh
13 Frank Bunce
14 James Lowe
15 Shane Howarthif we had more international posters that would upset like, so many of them
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@Tim said in Best of all time?:
@Bovidae Do wonder if we could do better than him on the wing?
I'd say his career for Scotland (50+ tests) and BIL was better than Lowe's so far.
Fat Billy was born in Aust.
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@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
1. T Woodcock (nz)
2. K Wood (ire)
3. O Brown (nz)
4. M Johnson (eng)
5. J Eales (aus)
6. J Burger (nam)
7. R McCaw (nz)
8. Z Brooke (nz)
9. G Edwards (wal)
10. D Carter (nz)
11. J Lomu (nz)
12. M Nonu (nz)
13. B O'Driscoll (ire)
14. D Campese (aus)
15. C Cullen (nz)16. O Du Rant (sa)
17. S Fitzpatrick (nz)
18. P Vickery (eng)
19. V Matfield (sa)
20. J Collins (nz)
21. F Du Preez (sa)
22. J Wilkinson (eng)
23. J Robinson (eng)This has to be a troll, MJ doesn't even make the bench and some dude from Namibia is in there.
Seems to have kicked off a thread though so that's all good.
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@Bovidae said in Best of all time?:
I'd say his career for Scotland (50+ tests) and BIL
That is the most surprising thing I've read in this thread. Assumed he would have been in the mid 20s.
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@Tim said in Best of all time?:
1 Mako Vunipola
2 Dylan Hartley
3 Uini Atonio/Taniela Tupou
4 Joe Tekori
5 Will Skelton
6 Michael Leitch
7 Michael Jones
8 Billy Vunipola
9 Kahn Fotuali'i
10 Quade Cooper
11 Virimi Vakatawa
12 Tony Marsh
13 Frank Bunce
14 James Lowe
15 Shane HowarthGraeme Bachop
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FB 15 Ben Smith
RW 14 Nehe Milner-Skudder
OC 13 Conrad Smith
IC 12 Ma'a Nonu
LW 11 Julian Savea
FH 10 Dan Carter
SH 9 Aaron Smith
N8 8 Kieran Read
OF 7 Richie McCaw (c)
BF 6 Jerome Kaino
RL 5 Sam Whitelock
LL 4 Brodie Retallick
TP 3 Owen Franks
HK 2 Dane Coles
LP 1 Joe Moody
Replacements:
HK 16 Keven Mealamu
PR 17 Ben Franks
PR 18 Charlie Faumuina
N8 19 Victor Vito
FL 20 Sam Cane
SH 21 Tawera Kerr-Barlow
FH 22 Beauden Barrett
CE 23 Sonny Bill Williams -
@Gunner said in Best of all time?:
@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
- B Barrett
- J Lomu
- M Nonu
- C Smith
- T Umaga
- C Cullen
No smiling face from me. Are there actually still people who would seriously take BB over DC? š¤
Iād also swap out Smith for Bunce and Tana for JK (while also not minding having either of them really.)
Edit: My bad itās the Canes. Ignore me. š¤¦š½āāļø
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@Nepia said in Best of all time?:
@Gunner said in Best of all time?:
@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
- B Barrett
- J Lomu
- M Nonu
- C Smith
- T Umaga
- C Cullen
No smiling face from me. Are there actually still people who would seriously take BB over DC? š¤
Iād also swap out Smith for Bunce and Tana for JK (while also not minding having either of them really.)
Edit: My bad itās the Canes. Ignore me. š¤¦š½āāļø
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It doesn't
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@Machpants said in Best of all time?:
FB 15 Ben Smith
RW 14 Nehe Milner-Skudder
OC 13 Conrad Smith
IC 12 Ma'a Nonu
LW 11 Julian Savea
FH 10 Dan Carter
SH 9 Aaron Smith
N8 8 Kieran Read
OF 7 Richie McCaw (c)
BF 6 Jerome Kaino
RL 5 Sam Whitelock
LL 4 Brodie Retallick
TP 3 Owen Franks
HK 2 Dane Coles
LP 1 Joe Moody
Replacements:
HK 16 Keven Mealamu
PR 17 Ben Franks
PR 18 Charlie Faumuina
N8 19 Victor Vito
FL 20 Sam Cane
SH 21 Tawera Kerr-Barlow
FH 22 Beauden Barrett
CE 23 Sonny Bill WilliamsErr that's the 2015 world cup team?....
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@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
@Machpants said in Best of all time?:
FB 15 Ben Smith
RW 14 Nehe Milner-Skudder
OC 13 Conrad Smith
IC 12 Ma'a Nonu
LW 11 Julian Savea
FH 10 Dan Carter
SH 9 Aaron Smith
N8 8 Kieran Read
OF 7 Richie McCaw (c)
BF 6 Jerome Kaino
RL 5 Sam Whitelock
LL 4 Brodie Retallick
TP 3 Owen Franks
HK 2 Dane Coles
LP 1 Joe Moody
Replacements:
HK 16 Keven Mealamu
PR 17 Ben Franks
PR 18 Charlie Faumuina
N8 19 Victor Vito
FL 20 Sam Cane
SH 21 Tawera Kerr-Barlow
FH 22 Beauden Barrett
CE 23 Sonny Bill WilliamsErr that's the 2015 world cup team?....
And wasn't that the fucking best? Consecutive RWC winners, I loved it!
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@booboo said in Best of all time?:
@Tim said in Best of all time?:
@Bovidae Do wonder if we could do better than him on the wing?
Inga
Lesley Vainikolo
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@Nepia said in Best of all time?:
@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
1. T Woodcock (nz)
2. K Wood (ire)
3. O Brown (nz)
4. M Johnson (eng)
5. J Eales (aus)
6. J Burger (nam)
7. R McCaw (nz)
8. Z Brooke (nz)
9. G Edwards (wal)
10. D Carter (nz)
11. J Lomu (nz)
12. M Nonu (nz)
13. B O'Driscoll (ire)
14. D Campese (aus)
15. C Cullen (nz)16. O Du Rant (sa)
17. S Fitzpatrick (nz)
18. P Vickery (eng)
19. V Matfield (sa)
20. J Collins (nz)
21. F Du Preez (sa)
22. J Wilkinson (eng)
23. J Robinson (eng)This has to be a troll, MJ doesn't even make the bench and some dude from Namibia is in there.
Seems to have kicked off a thread though so that's all good.
Try watching jac burger and you will see why I added him. Who would you have over johnson?
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@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
@Machpants said in Best of all time?:
FB 15 Ben Smith
RW 14 Nehe Milner-Skudder
OC 13 Conrad Smith
IC 12 Ma'a Nonu
LW 11 Julian Savea
FH 10 Dan Carter
SH 9 Aaron Smith
N8 8 Kieran Read
OF 7 Richie McCaw (c)
BF 6 Jerome Kaino
RL 5 Sam Whitelock
LL 4 Brodie Retallick
TP 3 Owen Franks
HK 2 Dane Coles
LP 1 Joe Moody
Replacements:
HK 16 Keven Mealamu
PR 17 Ben Franks
PR 18 Charlie Faumuina
N8 19 Victor Vito
FL 20 Sam Cane
SH 21 Tawera Kerr-Barlow
FH 22 Beauden Barrett
CE 23 Sonny Bill WilliamsErr that's the 2015 world cup team?....
Good spotting ... "Best of all time" ...
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@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
@Nepia said in Best of all time?:
@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
1. T Woodcock (nz)
2. K Wood (ire)
3. O Brown (nz)
4. M Johnson (eng)
5. J Eales (aus)
6. J Burger (nam)
7. R McCaw (nz)
8. Z Brooke (nz)
9. G Edwards (wal)
10. D Carter (nz)
11. J Lomu (nz)
12. M Nonu (nz)
13. B O'Driscoll (ire)
14. D Campese (aus)
15. C Cullen (nz)16. O Du Rant (sa)
17. S Fitzpatrick (nz)
18. P Vickery (eng)
19. V Matfield (sa)
20. J Collins (nz)
21. F Du Preez (sa)
22. J Wilkinson (eng)
23. J Robinson (eng)This has to be a troll, MJ doesn't even make the bench and some dude from Namibia is in there.
Seems to have kicked off a thread though so that's all good.
Try watching jac burger and you will see why I added him. Who would you have over johnson?
I think "MJ" may have been referring to some bloke who's last name was Jones ...
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PS I'm thinking picking Burger is the equivalent of picking Parisse ...
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Here's the best I've seen since I've been watching seriously, so it covers both era's - and shows just how old I am...
Note on my fullback choices: Blanco, JPR & Cully. All a bit different but are streets ahead of any other 15's IMHO, and I can't pick my favourite. I'd also love to have Mike Gibson in the starting XV, but the Ma'a/Conrad combination was just too good. Oh, and I know bugger-all about front-row stuff.
15 Serge Blanco (Fr)/Christain Cullen(NZ)/JPR Williams (Wal)
14 David Duckham (Eng)
13 Conrad Smith
12 Ma'a Nonu (NZ)
11 Jona Lomu (NZ)
10 Dan Carter (NZ)
9 Aaron Smith (NZ)
8 Mervyn Davies (Wal)
7 Ritchie McCaw (NZ)
6 Michael Jones (NZ)
5 Colin Meads (NZ)
4 John Eales (Aus)
3. Olo Brown (NZ)
2. Sean Fitzpatrick (NZ)
1 Jason Leonard (Eng)16 Os Du Randt (SA)
17 Keith Wood (Irl)
16 Phil Vickery (Eng)
17 Victor Matfield
18 Andy Ripley (Eng)
19. Hugo Porta (Arg)
20 Mike Gibson (Irl)
21 B G Williams (NZ)
22 Rob Howley (Wal)
23 ZinZan Brooke (NZ)Coaches: Carwyn James, Graham Henry & Bob Dwyer
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Eu team:
- D Sole (sct)
- K Wood (ire)
- P Vickery (eng)
- M Johnson (eng)
- P O'Connell (ire)
- M Gorgodze (geo)
- S Betsen (fra)
- L Dallaglio (eng)
- G Edwards (wal)
- J Wilkinson (eng)
- S Williams (wal
- Y Jauzion (fra)
- B O'Drisscoll (ire)
- J Robinson (eng)
- S Blanco (fra)
- S Thompson (eng)
- J Leonard (eng)
- JP Rives (fra)
- W John McBride (ire)
- T Dusautoir (fra)
- F GalthiƩ (fra)
- B John (wal)
- JPR Williams (wal)
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@booboo said in Best of all time?:
PS I'm thinking picking Burger is the equivalent of picking Parisse ...
Dito previous coment. Have you actually watched him?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Best of all time?:
Here's the best I've seen since I've been watching seriously, so it covers both era's - and shows just how old I am...
Note on my fullback choices: Blanco, JPR & Cully. All a bit different but are streets ahead of any other 15's IMHO, and I can't pick my favourite. I'd also love to have Mike Gibson in the starting XV, but the Ma'a/Conrad combination was just too good. Oh, and I know bugger-all about front-row stuff.
15 Serge Blanco (Fr)/Christain Cullen(NZ)/JPR Williams (Wal)
14 David Duckham (Eng)
13 Conrad Smith
12 Ma'a Nonu (NZ)
11 Jona Lomu (NZ)
10 Dan Carter (NZ)
9 Aaron Smith (NZ)
8 Mervyn Davies (Wal)
7 Ritchie McCaw (NZ)
6 Michael Jones (NZ)
5 Colin Meads (NZ)
4 John Eales (Aus)
3. Olo Brown (NZ)
2. Sean Fitzpatrick (NZ)
1 Jason Leonard (Eng)16 Os Du Randt (SA)
17 Keith Wood (Irl)
16 Phil Vickery (Eng)
17 Victor Matfield
18 Andy Ripley (Eng)
19. Hugo Porta (Arg)
20 Mike Gibson (Irl)
21 B G Williams (NZ)
22 Rob Howley (Wal)
23 ZinZan Brooke (NZ)Coaches: Carwyn James, Graham Henry & Bob Dwyer
Who's Andy ripley
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@booboo said in Best of all time?:
@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
@Nepia said in Best of all time?:
@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
1. T Woodcock (nz)
2. K Wood (ire)
3. O Brown (nz)
4. M Johnson (eng)
5. J Eales (aus)
6. J Burger (nam)
7. R McCaw (nz)
8. Z Brooke (nz)
9. G Edwards (wal)
10. D Carter (nz)
11. J Lomu (nz)
12. M Nonu (nz)
13. B O'Driscoll (ire)
14. D Campese (aus)
15. C Cullen (nz)16. O Du Rant (sa)
17. S Fitzpatrick (nz)
18. P Vickery (eng)
19. V Matfield (sa)
20. J Collins (nz)
21. F Du Preez (sa)
22. J Wilkinson (eng)
23. J Robinson (eng)This has to be a troll, MJ doesn't even make the bench and some dude from Namibia is in there.
Seems to have kicked off a thread though so that's all good.
Try watching jac burger and you will see why I added him. Who would you have over johnson?
I think "MJ" may have been referring to some bloke who's last name was Jones ...
Ooooooooo. The reason I didn't pick him is because it's meant to be best of all time in their positions. And he's not a better six then either burgers or Collins personally. Although nearly picked him over mcCaw
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Victor Meldrewreplied to Mackerzzzz on 6 Jun 2022, 10:20 last edited by Victor Meldrew 6 Jun 2022, 10:21
@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
Who's Andy ripley
Part of an England team that beat NZ in NZ & Sth Africa in Sth Africa. Also part of the 1974 Lions. Great player.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Best of all time?:
@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:
Who's Andy ripley
Part of an England team that beat NZ in NZ & Sth Africa in Sth Africa. Also part of the 1974 Lions. Great player.
Also good in a very corny 70's/80's TV sports show called "Superstars". A very good all round athlete.
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