Best of all time?

[Mackerzzzz]

@ACT-Crusader ok then

1. M Allen

2. D Coles

3. N Tialata

4. Ginger maori

5. J Thrush

6. J Collins

7. A Savea

8. V Vito

9. P Weepu

10. B Barrett

11. J Lomu

12. M Nonu

13. C Smith

14. T Umaga

15. C Cullen

16. A Hore

17. B Franks

18. G Slater

19. B Mika

20. C Masoe

21. TJ Perenara

22. J Gopperth

23. C Jane

Wider squad: J Savea, R Sooialo, J Eaton, J To'omaga-Allen, H Gear, A Ieremia, N Milner-Skudder

[MN5]

@ACT-Crusader said in Best of all time?:

@taniwharugby said in Best of all time?:

@ACT-Crusader I'm talking for impact off the bench, reckon Norm would have more, almost be inclined to start Ralph at 11 for those reasons you said.

Ralph interestingly enough scored quite a few of his tries coming off the bench. It was a tough call between him and Nadolo for the bench back.

Vuninbaka was a beast for us.

How bout James Kerr ?

I hope he still gets accosted to this day for a free Canterbury Draught from you guys for the try he got.

[KiwiMurph]

Sevu Reece is a better winger than Ralph.

[Tim]

A more interesting exercise might be to name a best XV of NZ players who have played for another international team. Tony Marsh and Frank Bunce would be a tasty midfield.

[Crucial]

@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:

1. T Woodcock (nz)
2. K Wood (ire)
3. O Brown (nz)
4. M Johnson (eng)
5. J Eales (aus)
6. J Burger (nam)
7. R McCaw (nz)
8. Z Brooke (nz)
9. G Edwards (wal)
10. D Carter (nz)
11. J Lomu (nz)
12. M Nonu (nz)
13. B O'Driscoll (ire)
14. D Campese (aus)
15. C Cullen (nz)

16. O Du Rant (sa)
17. S Fitzpatrick (nz)
18. P Vickery (eng)
19. V Matfield (sa)
20. J Collins (nz)
21. F Du Preez (sa)
22. J Wilkinson (eng)
23. J Robinson (eng)

No frogs? I loved watching Blanco but can't take Cully out. However, I would certainly have Sella ahead of BOD

[ACT Crusader]

@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:

@ACT-Crusader ok then

1. M Allen

2. D Coles

3. N Tialata

4. Ginger maori

5. J Thrush

6. J Collins

7. A Savea

8. V Vito

9. P Weepu

10. B Barrett

11. J Lomu

12. M Nonu

13. C Smith

14. T Umaga

15. C Cullen

16. A Hore

17. B Franks

18. G Slater

19. B Mika

20. C Masoe

21. TJ Perenara

22. J Gopperth

23. C Jane

Wider squad: J Savea, R Sooialo, J Eaton, J To'omaga-Allen, H Gear, A Ieremia, N Milner-Skudder

An embarrassment of riches for outside backs over the years.

I’d have Rodders ahead of Masoe for the bench spot. The Mika v Eaton call is a 50/50 for me.

Also Jordie has gone ahead of Gopperth.

[mariner4life]

y'all put too much head in to this and not enough heart

no way would i be making a chiefs one without Jonno Gibbes, Marty Holah, Liam Messam, Tanerau Latimer, of Stevy Donald no matter if there are "better" players available

[Tim]

@Tim

1 Mako Vunipola
2 Dylan Hartley
3 Uini Atonio/Taniela Tupou
4 Joe Tekori
5 Will Skelton
6 Michael Leitch
7 Michael Jones
8 Billy Vunipola
9 Kahn Fotuali'i
10 Quade Cooper
11 Virimi Vakatawa
12 Tony Marsh
13 Frank Bunce
14 James Lowe
15 Shane Howarth

[antipodean]

@Tim nice foreign legion XV

[Bovidae]

@Tim Sean Maitland as one of the wingers.

[Tim]

@Bovidae Do wonder if we could do better than him on the wing?

[mariner4life]

@Tim said in Best of all time?:

@Tim

1 Mako Vunipola
2 Dylan Hartley
3 Uini Atonio/Taniela Tupou
4 Joe Tekori
5 Will Skelton
6 Michael Leitch
7 Michael Jones
8 Billy Vunipola
9 Kahn Fotuali'i
10 Quade Cooper
11 Virimi Vakatawa
12 Tony Marsh
13 Frank Bunce
14 James Lowe
15 Shane Howarth

if we had more international posters that would upset like, so many of them

[Bovidae]

@Tim said in Best of all time?:

@Bovidae Do wonder if we could do better than him on the wing?

I'd say his career for Scotland (50+ tests) and BIL was better than Lowe's so far.

Fat Billy was born in Aust.

[Nepia]

@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:

1. T Woodcock (nz)
2. K Wood (ire)
3. O Brown (nz)
4. M Johnson (eng)
5. J Eales (aus)
6. J Burger (nam)
7. R McCaw (nz)
8. Z Brooke (nz)
9. G Edwards (wal)
10. D Carter (nz)
11. J Lomu (nz)
12. M Nonu (nz)
13. B O'Driscoll (ire)
14. D Campese (aus)
15. C Cullen (nz)

16. O Du Rant (sa)
17. S Fitzpatrick (nz)
18. P Vickery (eng)
19. V Matfield (sa)
20. J Collins (nz)
21. F Du Preez (sa)
22. J Wilkinson (eng)
23. J Robinson (eng)

This has to be a troll, MJ doesn't even make the bench and some dude from Namibia is in there.

Seems to have kicked off a thread though so that's all good.

[Nepia]

@Bovidae said in Best of all time?:

I'd say his career for Scotland (50+ tests) and BIL

That is the most surprising thing I've read in this thread. Assumed he would have been in the mid 20s.

[booboo]

@Tim said in Best of all time?:

@Tim

1 Mako Vunipola
2 Dylan Hartley
3 Uini Atonio/Taniela Tupou
4 Joe Tekori
5 Will Skelton
6 Michael Leitch
7 Michael Jones
8 Billy Vunipola
9 Kahn Fotuali'i
10 Quade Cooper
11 Virimi Vakatawa
12 Tony Marsh
13 Frank Bunce
14 James Lowe
15 Shane Howarth

Graeme Bachop

[booboo]

@Tim said in Best of all time?:

@Bovidae Do wonder if we could do better than him on the wing?

Inga

[Gunner]

@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:

10. B Barrett
11. J Lomu
12. M Nonu
13. C Smith
14. T Umaga
15. C Cullen

[Machpants]

FB 15 Ben Smith
RW 14 Nehe Milner-Skudder
OC 13 Conrad Smith
IC 12 Ma'a Nonu
LW 11 Julian Savea
FH 10 Dan Carter
SH 9 Aaron Smith
N8 8 Kieran Read
OF 7 Richie McCaw (c)
BF 6 Jerome Kaino
RL 5 Sam Whitelock
LL 4 Brodie Retallick
TP 3 Owen Franks
HK 2 Dane Coles
LP 1 Joe Moody
Replacements:
HK 16 Keven Mealamu
PR 17 Ben Franks
PR 18 Charlie Faumuina
N8 19 Victor Vito
FL 20 Sam Cane
SH 21 Tawera Kerr-Barlow
FH 22 Beauden Barrett
CE 23 Sonny Bill Williams

[Nepia]

@Gunner said in Best of all time?:

@Mackerzzzz said in Best of all time?:

10. B Barrett
11. J Lomu
12. M Nonu
13. C Smith
14. T Umaga
15. C Cullen

No smiling face from me. Are there actually still people who would seriously take BB over DC? 🤔

I’d also swap out Smith for Bunce and Tana for JK (while also not minding having either of them really.)

Edit: My bad it’s the Canes. Ignore me. 🤦🏽‍♂️