Black Caps tour of England 2022
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@Chris said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Chris said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Gunner Mitch Jr has been decidedly unlucky with his timing. For much of our history he'd already have done enough to secure a job for life!!!
He still has opportunity to supplant Nicholls, who to me is one of a few flat track bullies in our side
Is he though ? Test averages over 40 are like hens teeth in annals of New Zealand cricket history.
He also has a habit of busing out a huge innings when people are calling for his head too.
I don't think of consistency when I think of him. Just using the eye test, I haven't looked at his record vs each country or anything
8 test centuries puts him in the top 10 of NZ players who have hundreds.
105 v South Africa
118 v South Africa
157 v Pakistan
126 no v Pakistan
107 v Bangladesh
145 no v England
162 no v Sri Lanka
174 v West Indiesplus 11 -50's. add that to 1 ODI 100 plus 12 50's
doesn't look to shabby to me.
Pretty good. Mitchell generally looks so composed. It would be nice to find a spot for him. Colin seems to have found a new lease on life too. He looked untroubled in his first innings
Yep Daryl is a fighter good to have depth, looking at the 2nd test if your were going to bring Nicholls back.Conway to open for Young on form I would guess.I wouldn't drop Colin he looks good I agree, love watching him bat when he is in form.
I would be happy with that. Young out, Mitch Jr stays based on performance
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@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Gunner Mitch Jr has been decidedly unlucky with his timing. For much of our history he'd already have done enough to secure a job for life!!!
He still has opportunity to supplant Nicholls, who to me is one of a few flat track bullies in our side
That's Henry "Job for Life" Nicholls you're talking about!
Something interesting about our team at the moment is how close in age they all are. CdG is a bit older and Big Kyle a big younger (in this week's team) but, we've got a whole raft of players in their early 30s. Mainstays of some of the other forms like Ferguson and Neesh are in the same age group.
No real youngsters in the frontline, which is slightly concerning..
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Gunner Mitch Jr has been decidedly unlucky with his timing. For much of our history he'd already have done enough to secure a job for life!!!
He still has opportunity to supplant Nicholls, who to me is one of a few flat track bullies in our side
That's Henry "Job for Life" Nicholls you're talking about!
Something interesting about our team at the moment is how close in age they all are. CdG is a bit older and Big Kyle a big younger (in this week's team) but, we've got a whole raft of players in their early 30s. Mainstays of some of the other forms like Ferguson and Neesh are in the same age group.
No real youngsters in the frontline, which is slightly concerning..
Is Ravindra (?) On tour? He's one for the future
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@Chris said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Chris said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Gunner Mitch Jr has been decidedly unlucky with his timing. For much of our history he'd already have done enough to secure a job for life!!!
He still has opportunity to supplant Nicholls, who to me is one of a few flat track bullies in our side
Is he though ? Test averages over 40 are like hens teeth in annals of New Zealand cricket history.
He also has a habit of busing out a huge innings when people are calling for his head too.
I don't think of consistency when I think of him. Just using the eye test, I haven't looked at his record vs each country or anything
8 test centuries puts him in the top 10 of NZ players who have hundreds.
105 v South Africa
118 v South Africa
157 v Pakistan
126 no v Pakistan
107 v Bangladesh
145 no v England
162 no v Sri Lanka
174 v West Indiesplus 11 -50's. add that to 1 ODI 100 plus 12 50's
doesn't look to shabby to me.
Pretty good. Mitchell generally looks so composed. It would be nice to find a spot for him. Colin seems to have found a new lease on life too. He looked untroubled in his first innings
Yep Daryl is a fighter good to have depth, looking at the 2nd test if your were going to bring Nicholls back.Conway to open for Young on form I would guess.I wouldn't drop Colin he looks good I agree, love watching him bat when he is in form.
CdG has an almost effortless technique and one of those players that looks like he has plenty of time. Doesn’t have all those idiosyncrasies that many of the modern batsmen have these days.
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@canefan He is - and there's probably another couple of youngsters on tour, if I looked - but, not yet frontline players.
Wags is on tour at the other end of the spectrum - and still frontline.
Santner another in the tight early-30s grouping.
Edit: Actually, seems like Ravindra's not. Look at all those guys 29-33...
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@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Chris said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Chris said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Gunner Mitch Jr has been decidedly unlucky with his timing. For much of our history he'd already have done enough to secure a job for life!!!
He still has opportunity to supplant Nicholls, who to me is one of a few flat track bullies in our side
Is he though ? Test averages over 40 are like hens teeth in annals of New Zealand cricket history.
He also has a habit of busing out a huge innings when people are calling for his head too.
I don't think of consistency when I think of him. Just using the eye test, I haven't looked at his record vs each country or anything
8 test centuries puts him in the top 10 of NZ players who have hundreds.
105 v South Africa
118 v South Africa
157 v Pakistan
126 no v Pakistan
107 v Bangladesh
145 no v England
162 no v Sri Lanka
174 v West Indiesplus 11 -50's. add that to 1 ODI 100 plus 12 50's
doesn't look to shabby to me.
Pretty good. Mitchell generally looks so composed. It would be nice to find a spot for him. Colin seems to have found a new lease on life too. He looked untroubled in his first innings
Yep Daryl is a fighter good to have depth, looking at the 2nd test if your were going to bring Nicholls back.Conway to open for Young on form I would guess.I wouldn't drop Colin he looks good I agree, love watching him bat when he is in form.
CdG has an almost effortless technique and one of those players that looks like he has plenty of time. Doesn’t have all those idiosyncrasies that many of the modern batsmen have these days.
When he's on he's great. When he's not he's like a deer in the headlights. Good Colin is a definite asset
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan He is - and there's probably another couple of youngsters on tour, if I looked - but, not yet frontline players.
Wags is on tour at the other end of the spectrum - and still frontline.
Santner another in the tight early-30s grouping.
The current guys are just too good. But bringing the young guys on tour will get them in the mix for the future
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan See my edit!
Yeah. I guess they are all in their prime. And we are the world champs 😎. It's a bit like the great aussie teams. A guy like David Hussey was in his 30s before he broke into the side, such was the high standard
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
Interestingly for the pace bowlers:
Wags is 36
CdG is 35, turning 36 next month
Timmy is 33
Trent is 32
Henry is 30
Lockie is 30All things considered, they've done relatively well on the injury front in recent years (well, Ferguson aside).
The durability of our quicks over the last decade is in stark contrast to the early 2000’s when our fast bowlers were breaking down every 5 minutes.
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@Gunner said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
Interestingly for the pace bowlers:
Wags is 36
CdG is 35, turning 36 next month
Timmy is 33
Trent is 32
Henry is 30
Lockie is 30All things considered, they've done relatively well on the injury front in recent years (well, Ferguson aside).
The durability of our quicks over the last decade is in stark contrast to the early 2000’s when our fast bowlers were breaking down every 5 minutes.
…and on the whole were a class below what we have now
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@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Gunner said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
Interestingly for the pace bowlers:
Wags is 36
CdG is 35, turning 36 next month
Timmy is 33
Trent is 32
Henry is 30
Lockie is 30All things considered, they've done relatively well on the injury front in recent years (well, Ferguson aside).
The durability of our quicks over the last decade is in stark contrast to the early 2000’s when our fast bowlers were breaking down every 5 minutes.
…and on the whole were a class below what we have now
Although you can't argue with the numbers Boult and Timmy in particular put up. Add Wags and Kyle of late and we are as good as any group ever
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@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Gunner said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
Interestingly for the pace bowlers:
Wags is 36
CdG is 35, turning 36 next month
Timmy is 33
Trent is 32
Henry is 30
Lockie is 30All things considered, they've done relatively well on the injury front in recent years (well, Ferguson aside).
The durability of our quicks over the last decade is in stark contrast to the early 2000’s when our fast bowlers were breaking down every 5 minutes.
…and on the whole were a class below what we have now
Although you can't argue with the numbers Boult and Timmy in particular put up. Add Wags and Kyle of late and we are as good as any group ever
Isn’t that what I just said ?
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@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Gunner said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
Interestingly for the pace bowlers:
Wags is 36
CdG is 35, turning 36 next month
Timmy is 33
Trent is 32
Henry is 30
Lockie is 30All things considered, they've done relatively well on the injury front in recent years (well, Ferguson aside).
The durability of our quicks over the last decade is in stark contrast to the early 2000’s when our fast bowlers were breaking down every 5 minutes.
…and on the whole were a class below what we have now
Although you can't argue with the numbers Boult and Timmy in particular put up. Add Wags and Kyle of late and we are as good as any group ever
Isn’t that what I just said ?
Oh yeah. I thought you had said "above". Carry on .....
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Not easy viewing tonight. Had 3 going at once - test match, Warriors and Canes. But after 10 minutes of the Warriors game, it quickly went to watching 2.
Mitchell gone.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
Not easy viewing tonight. Had 3 going at once - test match, Warriors and Canes. But after 10 minutes of the Warriors game, it quickly went to watching 2.
Mitchell gone.
People still watch the Warriors ?
Wow
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Unplayable delivery from Broad there. Incredible innings from Mitchell though
