RWC 2023
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@Billy-Webb said in France 2023:
if he feels his liver is strong enough for one last hurrah with me
That's the problem, weeks in France with good (and cheap) wine my liver may well decide it is a final hurrah.
That and the fact that the ABs will lose if I go.It is tempting though. Hmmm.
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@Billy-Webb said in France 2023:
@nzzp said in France 2023:
@Godder said in France 2023:
Must be time for the TSF tour '23.
that could be good fun. Wonder how many pubs we'd be banned from
@Godder @nzzp Reckon I could be up for that if you could stomach hanging about with a Saffer.
I know @Snowy is boycotting travelling to RWC games anymore, but I'm sure I can tempt him out of retirement if he feels his liver is strong enough for one last hurrah with me
I'm quite tempted ... will be taking time out to calm down after this Cup though, and korero with the father in law. He's an old school rugby dude, would be funny as shit to be on tour with. Also tempted to drag one or both boys along ... well, for festival rugby group stages. After that it's all pressure, pain and heartbreak -- kind of like working
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@Billy-Webb said in France 2023:
@Godder @nzzp Reckon I could be up for that if you could stomach hanging about with a Saffer.
Add another - I'll be over there the week before playing anyway.
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@booboo said in France 2023:
When do tickets go on sale?
Mrs Boo reckons we're going.
Will make sure we're there for the pool matches ... and see how flexible we can be during the knockouts ...
Collective thoughts on tours, touring parties, independent travel etc appreciated.
(Yes I'm deflecting, I don't want to dwell on the aftermath.)
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So they're doing the draw even earlier this time. What the actual fuck? Three years early??
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Hurts to agree but, yeah, soccer do it 6 months before
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so they do the draw 3 years out, even though many of the teams who will be playing have not yet been determined?
Instead of making double rankings points during the RWC, make it double in the 18 months leading in and do the draw 6 months out.
Muppets
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
Has there been any thought given that perhaps World Rugby are purposefully doing this early to create chaos so that pool play is exciting with multiple big teams in the same pool?
It'll be for logistics right? So teams can plan ahead.
I'd prefer the seeding being done int he year before the world cup so you get the best competition, but I guess the World Cup is not about that?!?
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@Kirwan said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
It'll be for logistics right? So teams can plan ahead.
although I expect many of the teams who need to do the forward planning, budgetting etc dont know if they will qualify yet anyway.
And as @Machpants says, Soccer do it 6 months, with more teams to deal with.
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The FIFA World Cup with the exception of the host nation is an entirely random draw though so the logistics are a bit more straight forward.
To have a financially successful RWC the draw has be to be done carefully to ensure the marquee match ups maximize attendance etc.
Why three years is needed and not two is a mystery. Six months would seem unworkable though.
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@rotated said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
The FIFA World Cup with the exception of the host nation is an entirely random draw though so the logistics are a bit more straight forward.
I didn't know that, but I don't follow soccer.
So it would be possible to have a group that contained Brazil, Germany, France, etc and have most of the favourites knocked out at the pool stage. -
Pretty much affirming this isn't a sporting competition, but a revenue raising device (we knew it of course, but it's nice to have it so neatly illustrated). Rugby's very own speed camera
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@Duluth said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
@Kirwan said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
It'll be for logistics right? So teams can plan ahead.
Tour operators, fans...
I can understand why they don't want it done 12months before. Surely two years would be enough?
Two years is barely enough, but workable.
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@rotated said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
The FIFA World Cup with the exception of the host nation is an entirely random draw though so the logistics are a bit more straight forward.
To have a financially successful RWC the draw has be to be done carefully to ensure the marquee match ups maximize attendance etc.
Why three years is needed and not two is a mystery. Six months would seem unworkable though.
Is it? Didn't use to be.
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@booboo said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
@Duluth said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
@Kirwan said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
It'll be for logistics right? So teams can plan ahead.
Tour operators, fans...
I can understand why they don't want it done 12months before. Surely two years would be enough?
Two years is barely enough, but workable.
what do you mean by that?
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@mariner4life said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
@booboo said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
@Duluth said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
@Kirwan said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
It'll be for logistics right? So teams can plan ahead.
Tour operators, fans...
I can understand why they don't want it done 12months before. Surely two years would be enough?
Two years is barely enough, but workable.
what do you mean by that?
Well, my opinion.
Althiugh a lot can happen to form I two years, but it's kind of close enough that it's reflective of form reasonably close to the event, and independent of the last one.
... work calls ... might try and explain better later
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@booboo said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
@rotated said in RWC 2023 draw, this November!:
The FIFA World Cup with the exception of the host nation is an entirely random draw though so the logistics are a bit more straight forward.
To have a financially successful RWC the draw has be to be done carefully to ensure the marquee match ups maximize attendance etc.
Why three years is needed and not two is a mystery. Six months would seem unworkable though.
Is it? Didn't use to be.
Random in the sense of venue allocation. A1 vs A3 @ Venue ABC on July 1 is set out before the draw is made. The tournament is seeded, although there is some vagueries beyond the Top 7 seeds as certain confederations can only have a maximum of two teams per pool etc.
The RWC is done in reverse where the pools are drawn first (with repechage and qualifiers still undecided) and then the schedule and venues are chosen to suit the draw, maximize attendance, TV timezones etc.
