Crusaders v Highlanders

[gt12]

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 maybe they could try some rush defences, at least give us more idea on breaking them down.

Crazy that the canes won their title on immense rush defended. No tries conceded in knock outs. What the fuck had happened since then?

Was Plums was in charge of defense then? They had Watt (forwards) and Holland (??)

[Kiwiwomble]

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

'ball flung into open spaces' bridge makes zero metres

hardly a bridge champion here...but it landed about 15m from bridge, and had to coming and regather and still recycled, not like he got the ball in open space

[Yeetyaah]

@kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@yeetyaah said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

Nuggie past it, too busy fucking around with cringey NFTs on Twitter.

that is a random and bullshit call, not like he's on twitter right now or anything

😂 I'm just shitposting

[Machpants]

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 maybe they could try some rush defences, at least give us more idea on breaking them down.

Crazy that the canes won their title on immense rush defended. No tries conceded in knock outs. What the fuck had happened since then?

Was Plums was in charge of defense then? They had Watt (forwards) and Holland (??)

I'm not really thinking of personell, more why the fuck did we move away from rush?

[Chris]

Good first half from Newell getting more starts so growing into his game.

[Machpants]

@kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

'ball flung into open spaces' bridge makes zero metres

hardly a bridge champion here...but it landed about 15m from bridge, and had to coming and regather and still recycled, not like he got the ball in open space

Twas joke. Just made me laugh coming from TJ

[gt12]

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 maybe they could try some rush defences, at least give us more idea on breaking them down.

Crazy that the canes won their title on immense rush defended. No tries conceded in knock outs. What the fuck had happened since then?

Was Plums was in charge of defense then? They had Watt (forwards) and Holland (??)

I'm not really thinking of personell, more why the fuck did we move away from rush?

I’m speculating about whether that might be related to coaches. Although, as the Canes looked uncoached, maybe the players are dreaming up the system on their way to the field each day.

[Kiwiwomble]

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

"its a penalty every time the want it that scrum"

and thats what wrong with things at the moment

For the Highlanders? Yep

you think its good rugby any team can basically force a penalty out of another?

[Machpants]

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 maybe they could try some rush defences, at least give us more idea on breaking them down.

Crazy that the canes won their title on immense rush defended. No tries conceded in knock outs. What the fuck had happened since then?

Was Plums was in charge of defense then? They had Watt (forwards) and Holland (??)

I'm not really thinking of personell, more why the fuck did we move away from rush?

I’m speculating about whether that might be related to coaches. Although, as the Canes looked I coached, maybe the players are dreaming up the system on their way to the field each day.

But all the NZ super teams, and ABs, defend so passively now. It's bizarre

[gt12]

@chris said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

Good first half from Newell getting more starts so growing into his game.

Good to see him with the ball in his hands a bit too.

[Machpants]

@kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

"its a penalty every time the want it that scrum"

and thats what wrong with things at the moment

For the Highlanders? Yep

you think its good rugby any team can basically force a penalty out of another?

If you're that much better, yes.

[gt12]

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 maybe they could try some rush defences, at least give us more idea on breaking them down.

Crazy that the canes won their title on immense rush defended. No tries conceded in knock outs. What the fuck had happened since then?

Was Plums was in charge of defense then? They had Watt (forwards) and Holland (??)

I'm not really thinking of personell, more why the fuck did we move away from rush?

I’m speculating about whether that might be related to coaches. Although, as the Canes looked I coached, maybe the players are dreaming up the system on their way to the field each day.

But all the NZ super teams, and ABs, defend so passively now. It's bizarre

And you don’t think that’s related to coaching/coaches?

[KiwiMurph]

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 maybe they could try some rush defences, at least give us more idea on breaking them down.

Crazy that the canes won their title on immense rush defended. No tries conceded in knock outs. What the fuck had happened since then?

Was Plums was in charge of defense then? They had Watt (forwards) and Holland (??)

I'm not really thinking of personell, more why the fuck did we move away from rush?

I’m speculating about whether that might be related to coaches. Although, as the Canes looked I coached, maybe the players are dreaming up the system on their way to the field each day.

But all the NZ super teams, and ABs, defend so passively now. It's bizarre

Blues defence has taken a step back this year too - under Tana they were much more physical and pressing (whilst admittedly also being highly penalised - but at least it was a different style).

[Kiwiwomble]

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

"its a penalty every time the want it that scrum"

and thats what wrong with things at the moment

For the Highlanders? Yep

you think its good rugby any team can basically force a penalty out of another?

If you're that much better, yes.

if you're that much better then score tries, penalties are for when someone breaks the rules, not for when you force them to do something

[Bovidae]

I wish refs would penalise players more when they deliberately hold/grab opposition players who are trying to get to their feet. Strange holding Dawai wasn't even subtle.

[Machpants]

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@gt12 maybe they could try some rush defences, at least give us more idea on breaking them down.

Crazy that the canes won their title on immense rush defended. No tries conceded in knock outs. What the fuck had happened since then?

Was Plums was in charge of defense then? They had Watt (forwards) and Holland (??)

I'm not really thinking of personell, more why the fuck did we move away from rush?

I’m speculating about whether that might be related to coaches. Although, as the Canes looked I coached, maybe the players are dreaming up the system on their way to the field each day.

But all the NZ super teams, and ABs, defend so passively now. It's bizarre

And you don’t think that’s related to coaching?

Sure possible but it must've come from above, otherwise why did it become so pervasive. Maybe it's because we were smashing a crap SA and it will always work against Oz.

[Machpants]

@kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@machpants said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

@kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

"its a penalty every time the want it that scrum"

and thats what wrong with things at the moment

For the Highlanders? Yep

you think its good rugby any team can basically force a penalty out of another?

If you're that much better, yes.

if you're that much better then score tries, penalties are for when someone breaks the rules, not for when you force them to do something

Don't go down in the scrum then, go backwards. Then dominance is rewarded

[taniwharugby]

Jeez, Bernadine has a long day, on the AM show on 3, now out here on Sky...

[Frank]

@kiwi_expat said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

Marino Mikaele-Tu'u

Speaking of him, what happened?
Has he been injured or lost form?
I thought at one point it was between him and Sotutu for the number 8 spot in the ABs.

[Tim]

@frank He got injured last year. His defence was poor though, and wasn't in contention.