RIP Martin Crowe

MN5

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Bollocks - what is it with you and black West Indians???
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Cos his overall record is really close to Crowes ? they also tend not to knight players unless they could play a bit. Sorry the fact he's black is incidental, don't bring race into this.

booboo

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or faced Larwood and Voce bowling bodyline 
or a spofforth off break 
or a Bosanquet googly :huh: 
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I thought Spofforth was a quick? 
A quick google confirms he was initially and known as "The Demon". But mixed it up and got a lot with his "break back" as a slow bowler. Fascinating. Learn something every day.

booboo

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Bollocks - what is it with you and black West Indians???</blockquote>
 
There aren't many white West Indians? 
(Tony Cozier perhaps ... )

gollum

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Bollocks - what is it with you and black West Indians???
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To be fair Richie Richardson was outstandingly good, he was just overshadowed by Viv & Lara. And his hat. And trying to hold a disintegrating team together. Its not disimilar to the way people often miss that Laxman was a genius with the bat because he wasn't Sewag, Sahin or Dravid.
 
I'm not sold Richie was an all time great, but he'd average mid 50's now (as would Crowe). There is an element of "in another team...". Like if Jason Gillespie had been a Kiwi, then you have a guy with 400 wickets & a double ton.

dogmeat

and if Paddles had been in the Windies team he's have had 250 wickets tops. If they persevered with him in his early wild days.

MN5

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To be fair Richie Richardson was outstandingly good, he was just overshadowed by Viv & Lara. And his hat. And trying to hold a disintegrating team together. Its not disimilar to the way people often miss that Laxman was a genius with the bat because he wasn't Sewag, Sahin or Dravid.
 
I'm not sold Richie was an all time great, but he'd average mid 50's now (as would Crowe). There is an element of "in another team...". Like if Jason Gillespie had been a Kiwi, then you have a guy with 400 wickets & a double ton. 
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Nail. Head. That's precisely what I've been trying to point out for far too many pages. I also don't think Richardson is an all time great but very comparable to Crowe, both were genuinely fucken good. Crowe just stood out more cos his career wasn't bookended by genuine legends ( which none of you can deny ) in Richards and Lara.
 
Laxman is a great example. If he passed away tomorrow I'm sure the tributes would flow aplenty for a brilliant record but again, look closer and he was often "only" the third or fourth best in the team at any given time.

Bovidae

I've been watching the livestream of the funeral. A fantastic eulogy from Ian Smith and touching tributes from Jeff, Guppy, Rosco and Lorraine.

Virgil

Good to see Russ Crowe made it over as well

Siam

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Nail. Head. That's precisely what I've been trying to point out for far too many pages. I also don't think Richardson is an all time great but very comparable to Crowe, both were genuinely fucken good. Crowe just stood out more cos his career wasn't bookended by genuine legends ( which none of you can deny ) in Richards and Lara.
 
Laxman is a great example. If he passed away tomorrow I'm sure the tributes would flow aplenty for a brilliant record but again, look closer and he was often "only" the third or fourth best in the team at any given time.
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That's fair enough MN5
 
May I rescind my original "bolocks" to a whiney "Really?"
 
Crowe's still a great though and stats can feck off ;)

Virgil

<img src="http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webcontent/image/png/201611/RusselCrowe_620x310.png" alt="RusselCrowe_620x310.png">
 
Actor Russell Crowe has dropped by the Auckland cricket club where his cousin, cricketing great Martin Crowe, first honed his batting skills.
A photo posted to Twitter this afternoon shows Russell, dressed in black shorts and singlet, with members of the Cornwall Park Cricket Club.
Martin, who was farewelled at the Holy Trinity Cathedral in Parnell yesterday, was a member of the club before going on to become New Zealand's greatest test batsman.
 
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The Silver Fern

RIP Martin Crowe