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  • MokeyM Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mimic" data-cid="565795" data-time="1458374327">
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    <p>Aussies juust like giving us the W in the round robin, and then beating us in the games that really matter..</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>They have to make it that far, first. The India/Australia game might well be the first televised cricket brawl... :knuppel: :yes:</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    <p>A couple of predictable results overnight although the Afghans certainly didn't disgrace themselves.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Is it too early to pick the top two teams to make the semis from each pool ?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>For what it's worth at this stage I'll go NZ, India, WI, England.......</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>That of course depends hugely on the India/Aus game which will be a cracker, still fucken thrilled our boys have knocked both of them off already though.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>SA struggle with knockout cricket and I can't see Pakistan or the Lankans playing anything else than a "spoiler" type role to be honest.</p>

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  • gollumG Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="565913" data-time="1458395959">
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    <p>and Taylor?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>At least Ronchi is doing his core job...</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>You want to talk about batsmen currently underperforming....?</p>
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    <p>Yeah, Taylor has very much been under performing in T20's, I don't get how badley he's been going.</p>
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    <p>But he is at least in form - his ODI / test numbers are great. So it's not form. Ronchi on the other hand can't buy a run in any format. He's been uniformly pigshit regardless of the type of cricket. So that is form & thats worse, Taylor could at any minute click his ODI form over to a T20 knock. Ronchi has no form at all in any format. </p>

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  • SiamS Offline
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    <p>Not sure of your definitions there Gollum</p>
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    <p>You're either scoring runs or you're not. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>"form" is a term used in the short term to try to describe if you're scoring runs or you're not. "Despite scoring 2 centuries in his last 3 innings, he's in terrible form" ??? nah</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>It's not like players forget how to do it</p>

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  • gollumG Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="566362" data-time="1458554814">
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    <p>Not sure of your definitions there Gollum</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>You're either scoring runs or you're not. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>"form" is a term used in the short term to try to<em><strong> describe if you're scoring runs or you're not.</strong></em> "Despite scoring 2 centuries in his last 3 innings, he's in terrible form" ??? nah</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>It's not like players forget how to do it</p>
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    <p>I'm taking cricket form. Last 12 months Taylor averages 45 in tests, 76 (!) in ODIs. But only 20 in T20's. He is in form. That form just isn't flowing into the T20's. He's hitting the ball great, he just hasn't delivered in T20's recently</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Ronchi in contrast 11 in ODI & 10 in T20's. He has no form, <em>in any format.</em> Pick any type of cricket you like Luke is out of form.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="566367" data-time="1458557480">
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    <p>I'm taking cricket form. Last 12 months Taylor averages 45 in tests, 76 (!) in ODIs. But only 20 in T20's. He is in form. That form just isn't flowing into the T20's. He's hitting the ball great, he just hasn't delivered in T20's recently</p>
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    <p>Ronchi in contrast 11 in ODI & 10 in T20's. He has no form, <em>in any format.</em> Pick any type of cricket you like Luke is out of form.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Ahh nevermind, I misread. </p>

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  • SiamS Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="566372" data-time="1458560356">
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    <p> </p>
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    #328

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="566367" data-time="1458557480">
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    <p>I'm taking cricket form. Last 12 months Taylor averages 45 in tests, 76 (!) in ODIs. But only 20 in T20's. He is in form. That form just isn't flowing into the T20's. He's hitting the ball great, he just hasn't delivered in T20's recently</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Ronchi in contrast 11 in ODI & 10 in T20's. He has no form, <em>in any format.</em> <strong>Pick any type of cricket you like </strong>Luke is out of form.</p>
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    <p>Tests. Last 12 months Ronchi is averaging 59.5. If that's not great form then what is?  :fishing:  :hi:</p>

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  • gollumG Offline
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    <p>Tests. Last 12 months Ronchi is averaging 59.5. If that's not great form then what is?  :fishing:  :hi:</p>
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    <p>Ha! And it was away from home too! Yep. His test form is superb.</p>

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    #330

    <p>It's worth mentioning that our girls are also dominating their group at the moment --> <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-womens-world-twenty20-2016/engine/series/901361.html?view=pointstable'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-womens-world-twenty20-2016/engine/series/901361.html?view=pointstable</a></p>
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    <p>7 wicket win against Sri Lanka, 93 run win against Ireland, and last night a 6 wicket win against Australia. We had the Aussies 4-4 at one stage!</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I have absolutely no idea who the best women's teams are but that is an outstanding start to the tournament.</p>

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #331

    <p>Aus beat the Bangles. And it's looking very much like if you get Khawaja out, you can stop Australia. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>How the fuck can Finch not get a start?</p>

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #332

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="566433" data-time="1458606394"><p>Aus beat the Bangles. And it's looking very much like if you get Khawaja out, you can stop Australia. <br><br>
    How the fuck can Finch not get a start?</p></blockquote>
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    My guess it's a selection of two of Finch, Khawaja and Warner. <br><br>
    They like Watson's bowling and to his credit he's pretty good in T20s. <br><br>
    Smith and 'Big Show' are locked in.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    #333

    <p>Watson should drop down the order as he is better against the slower bowlers. Warner needs to open. Aussie have a bloody powerful batting lineup, if they click in the right conditions they will be impossible to contain.</p>

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    <p>I think they've got their balance all wrong. They are obsessed with bowling options, and they are picking guys to bowl a bit, and then giving them an over. They bowled 7 guys last night, 2 of which bowled one over each. Do you need Watson and Marsh in the same side? </p>
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    <p>If it's me, Finch and Warner open, Waj bats 3 (or any mix of that) Smith at 4, Maxwell at 5. Then Watson/Faulkner. Then the bowlers/non-batting keeper (why did they take their test keeper with them when he can't even start for a Big Bash side?)</p>

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    #335

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="566373" data-time="1458560443"><p></p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="566372" data-time="1458560356"><p><br></p></blockquote></blockquote>
    <br>
    Deep

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    #336

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="566446" data-time="1458611806">
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    <p>Deep</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>That's the goddamn Rorschart Ink Blot of the forum world.</p>
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    <p>Siam: I bloody disagree.  How can you maintain comments like that on hear?  Blind Freddy could see you're wrong.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>PS: It was Hammett's fault....</p>

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #337

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="566431" data-time="1458605862">
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    <p>It's worth mentioning that our girls are also dominating their group at the moment --> <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-womens-world-twenty20-2016/engine/series/901361.html?view=pointstable'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-womens-world-twenty20-2016/engine/series/901361.html?view=pointstable</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>7 wicket win against Sri Lanka, 93 run win against Ireland, and last night a 6 wicket win against Australia. We had the Aussies 4-4 at one stage!</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I have absolutely no idea who the best women's teams are but that is an outstanding start to the tournament.</p>
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    <p>I think NZ would be ranked 3rd behind Australia and England, although England has been the big improver.  NZ did beat Aust 2-1 in a T20 series in NZ earlier this year.  A great effort from the White Ferns as they had a horror travel schedule to arrive in Nagpur.</p>

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #338

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="566439" data-time="1458611036"><p>Watson should drop down the order as he is better against the slower bowlers. Warner needs to open. Aussie have a bloody powerful batting lineup, if they click in the right conditions they will be impossible to contain.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Given a number of teams open with slower bowlers he's probably not a bad option up there. <br><br>
    However Warner should be opening with Waj at 3.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    #339

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    <p>I think NZ would be ranked 3rd behind Australia and England, although England has been the big improver.  NZ did beat Aust 2-1 in a T20 series in NZ earlier this year.  A great effort from the White Ferns as they had a horror travel schedule to arrive in Nagpur.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Womens cricket is hardly Tennis or Beach Volleyball though is it ? take away the perve factor and it's just a bunch of people bowling slower, hitting shorter and fielding less athletically. Comments I've seen online ( admittedly most of them on Stuff ) are just the typical "Suck on that ozzie" type shit from people who couldn't name a single player in either side.   </p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    #340

    <p>I think Women's cricket is a little more open to variable results because its still largely amateur - and T20 is geared for upsets even in the men's version. That (and Ellyse Perry, and Holly Ferling) made WBBL quite watchable.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>So its very hard to put a ranking system on that. I'm hoping the professional status we have here in Oz now will allow more women to get into the game, with more physical training, and lift the standard.</p>

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