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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Bovidae Do you know whether all games will be shown delayed? Or at least the BFs tests?

    The short answer is, I don't know. I only saw this advertised on Newshub. Spark Sport and Newshub have a deal for the RWC games so maybe they will be showing the BF tests in the Pacific Four at least.

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    I don't want this post to result in a political discussion, but for who doesn't know, here's some background info on rookie prop Tanya Kalounivale.

    Michael J Field

    Fiji rugby and Bainimarama’s vengeance

    Fiji rugby and Bainimarama’s vengeance

    “All I want is the truth about the death of my husband."

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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    I don't want this post to result in a political discussion, but for who doesn't know, here's some background info on rookie prop Tanya Kalounivale.

    Michael J Field

    Fiji rugby and Bainimarama’s vengeance

    Fiji rugby and Bainimarama’s vengeance

    “All I want is the truth about the death of my husband."

    What an amazing story.

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    @Crucial said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    I don't want this post to result in a political discussion, but for who doesn't know, here's some background info on rookie prop Tanya Kalounivale.

    Michael J Field

    Fiji rugby and Bainimarama’s vengeance

    Fiji rugby and Bainimarama’s vengeance

    “All I want is the truth about the death of my husband."

    What an amazing story.

    Paywalled for me

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    @Machpants said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Crucial said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    I don't want this post to result in a political discussion, but for who doesn't know, here's some background info on rookie prop Tanya Kalounivale.

    Michael J Field

    Fiji rugby and Bainimarama’s vengeance

    Fiji rugby and Bainimarama’s vengeance

    “All I want is the truth about the death of my husband."

    What an amazing story.

    Paywalled for me

    Is for me now as well. Possibly the writer got so many hits that he switched his account to subscriber only.

    Short story is that when Tanya Kalounivale was very young her father was caught up in the various coups in Fiji, got on the wrong side of Bainimarama and was possibly tortured and executed. She has a brother who was a very promising player whose rugby career in Fiji was vetoed and the family then left the country as 'refugees' which has resulted in Tanya playing for her adopted country.

    There's a few more twists and turns and detail if you want to sign up for a trial read. I found it interesting.

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    https://www.allblacks.com/news/world-cup-hopefuls-go-head-to-head-in-black-ferns-trial/

    Dubbed Ngalingali v Rawata (‘possibles’ in Tongan and Fijian) the match will kick off at 7.05pm on Friday 8 July at Navigation Homes Stadium and will be broadcast live on Sky Sport.

    Leading coaches Anna Richards, Scott Manson, Crystal Kaua and Victoria Grant will lead the two teams, with the Black Ferns coaching group of Wayne Smith, Wesley Clarke and Whitney Hansen watching on.

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    @Bovidae Awesome that it will be on Sky!

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    18 players that weren't involved in Pac4!

    That's heaps more than I expected.

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    Hopefully most of the injured players are available again, along with some of the BF7s players (assuming they are risked before the CGs).

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    The trial teams are:

    Rawata: Eloise Blackwell, Chelsea Bremner, Ruahei Demant, Amy du Plessis, Victoria Edmonds, Maia Joseph, Tanya Kalounivale, Arihiana Marino-Tauhinu, Liana Mikaele-Tu’u, Krystal Murray, Joanah Ngan-Woo, Georgia Ponsonby, Kendra Reynolds, Chelsea Semple, Victoria Subritzky-Nafatali, Awhina Tangen-Wainohu, Pia Tapsell, Steph Te O-Haere-Fox, Kelsey Teneti, Hazel Tubic, Ruby Tui, Chryss Viliko, Renee Wickliffe.

    Ngalingali: Lucy Anderson, Alana Bremner, Kendra Cocksedge, Luka Connor, Carys Dallinger, Natalie Delamere, Les Elder, Di Hiini, Carla Hohepa, Renee Holmes, Tysha Ikenasio, Tafito Lafaele, Patricia Maliepo, Charmaine McMenamin, Angel Mulu, Jackie Patea-Fereti, Leilani Perese, Cheyelle Robins-Reti, Amy Rule, Charmaine Smith, Grace Steinmetz, Monica Tagoai, Janna Vaughan, Kelsie Wills

    Players unavailable for selection include Pip Love, Grace Brooker, Ariana Bayler, Kaipo Olsen-Baker, Ayesha Leti-I'iga and Iritana Hohaia.

    https://www.allblacks.com/news/black-ferns-triallists-named/

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    @Bovidae unavailable Ayesha Leti-I'iga

    Yeah they don't want any of the other ferns hurt or embarrassed!

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    Maia Joseph? That's a big leap in class for her.

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    @Machpants said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Bovidae unavailable Ayesha Leti-I'iga

    Yeah they don't want any of the other ferns hurt or embarrassed!

    If they have their sevens players available I still don't think she starts in the top XV.

    @Crucial Bayler and Hohaia are also amongst the injured list. Strange that one of the starting halfbacks from the other Aupiki SR teams aren't ahead of her.

    No Kennedy Simon in either team, or amongst the injured group.

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    A good story about Hazel Tubic. She was playing rugby in Japan before returning in 2020.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/black-ferns/300632529/trusty-black-fern-hazel-tubic-return-is-more-than-just-for-kicks

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    @Bovidae Also interesting to read about the influence of Smith on how the Ferns train and how important professionalisation has been and that trickles further down to NPC. Which kind of makes it harder for Championship teams without Black Ferns to catch up, too, unfortunately.

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    What's the meaning of the team names Rawata and Ngalingali?

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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    What's the meaning of the team names Rawata and Ngalingali?

    Yeah according to the Maori Dictionary, nothing!

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    Full time score:
    Rawata 59 - 5 Ngalingali

    If an equal contest between both teams is what the coaches wanted, they had their selections wrong. Tough job selecting a World Cup squad based on this game, because I'm sure some players of the Ngalingali team would have been able to show more if they had been on the other team, because they'd have better or more ball.

    I've not looked at individual players to closely (I was multitasking), but if one thing was clear, it was that Victoria Subritzky-Nafatali was way better than Patricia Maliepo. Hazel Tubic was very good, too.

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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    What's the meaning of the team names Rawata and Ngalingali?

    "Possibles" in Fijian and Tongan.

    The black scrum completely dominated led by Kalounivale. I thought Blackwell looked good on her return. Tubic outstanding. Check out the final touch for Baker's try. I can't see Elder being selected unless she really performs in the FPC.

    I could definitely see a significant improvement in the passing, offloading and support since last year.

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