AFL 2022
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@Kiwiwomble said in AFL 2022:
@mariner4life if anything i think it made it much worse for my mate...think he had almost given up at 3/4 time and was about to just enjoy the game...and then those mother fuckers gave him hope
it's the hope that kills you
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@mariner4life it’s not unusual for the Brownlow though to have high pollsters in mid-table teams because it’s often only 3-4 that dominate.
Agree on the non-suspension, but in those losses he was best on ground from watching. In particular that Pies final game, he was on another level.
Check this, Carlton got the Brownlow and Coleman medalists but didn’t make the finals - haha sucked in Blues (pretenders)
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@ACT-Crusader said in AFL 2022:
Check this, Carlton got the Brownlow and Coleman medalists but didn’t make the finals - haha sucked in Blues (pretenders
and 5 all-australians
#vicbias
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@mariner4life swans only got two and one of them was on the bench
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@Kiwiwomble said in AFL 2022:
@mariner4life swans only got two and one of them was on the bench
that's because, unlike the mighty Blues, Sydney are just a team that (checks notes) finished top 4 and made the GF?
make it make sense??!!
I almost hate Carlton as much as i hate Richmond
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@mariner4life apologies, its obvious now you explain it like that
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@mariner4life said in AFL 2022:
@Kiwiwomble said in AFL 2022:
@mariner4life swans only got two and one of them was on the bench
that's because, unlike the mighty Blues, Sydney are just a team that (checks notes) finished top 4 and made the GF?
make it make sense??!!
I almost hate Carlton as much as i hate Richmond
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Meanwhile on the eve of the final, allegations that Clarkson and Fagan, while at Hawthorn 'separated First Nations players from families and demanded a pregnancy termination'.
Family separations and pregnancy termination: Hawthorn racism review reveals shock allegations against former coaches
Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan are named in a Hawthorn review into how First Nations players were treated during Clarkson's time at the helm of the Hawks. Warning — this story contains details of self-harm, pregnancy loss, and intergenerational trauma for Indigenous people.
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bloody legend
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@antipodean wow
this is going to get ugly
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@antipodean said in AFL 2022:
Meanwhile on the eve of the final, allegations that Clarkson and Fagan, while at Hawthorn 'separated First Nations players from families and demanded a pregnancy termination'.
Family separations and pregnancy termination: Hawthorn racism review reveals shock allegations against former coaches
Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan are named in a Hawthorn review into how First Nations players were treated during Clarkson's time at the helm of the Hawks. Warning — this story contains details of self-harm, pregnancy loss, and intergenerational trauma for Indigenous people.
Wow! Irrespective of being First Nation those allegations are way beyond acceptable behavior from people in power. That is evil stuff and they should at very least be banned from the game IMO.
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I'm mindful of two things:
- They're allegations at this point so due process should be followed (no that such a thing exists on the internet), and
- I've been in positions where young men have come forward and we've implemented welfaring provisions based on the issues they've detailed to us. Not infrequently have we become aware of a vast discrepancy between the story we've been told and what they've told others.
So actions taken with the best of intentions can look awfully harsh when viewed from another position. Hopefully that's the case here and as a result the procedure for dealing with it is well documented, standardised across clubs, and agreed to be the AFL and the Players Association.
If however the allegations are found to be correct, then these coaches should be rubbed from the game.
Fagan's been at the Lions for sufficient time that such behaviour must surely have manifested itself again?
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@antipodean said in AFL 2022:
Fagan's been at the Lions for sufficient time that such behaviour must surely have manifested itself again?
the reports out of the Club about Fagan's relationship with the indigenous players, and the steps to build the indigenous culture in the club is totally at odds with this. But, if this is as reported, and he's involved, should still go.
I too am waiting. Context will absolutely matter, because the framing of the conversation could have been very different, but something got lost.
It fucking doesn't read well, and any rebuttal from the Club will have to be very fucking careful.
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however, not making light of the situation, god bless the internet
i just saw someone make this post on another forum
"Everyone to North supporters"
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Hawthorn Club Statement
"Earlier this year the Hawthorn Football Club engaged external First Nations consultants to liaise with current and former First Nations players and staff to learn more about their experience at the club.
"This important work has raised disturbing historical allegations that require further investigation. Upon learning of these allegations, the club immediately engaged AFL Integrity as is appropriate.
"The club will continue to provide support to those who have participated in this process, and their wellbeing remains our priority.
"While the process indicated the current environment at the club is culturally safe, it also recommended that some of the club’s current First Nations training and development programs should continue to be strengthened.
"The club places the best interests and welfare of our players and staff as our number one priority.
"Given the matters raised are confidential, the club will not provide any further comment at this time."
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@mariner4life said in AFL 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in AFL 2022:
Check this, Carlton got the Brownlow and Coleman medalists but didn’t make the finals - haha sucked in Blues (pretenders
and 5 all-australians
#vicbias
*three. But whatever.
Carlton suffer because their worst eight players are horrible. Their best 8-10 are as good as any side in the league.
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Lions club statement says Fagan taking a leave of absence to cooperate with the AFL Integrity Unit. Says he wasn't consulted as part of the review.
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Anyway.. got the tele on AFL 360 and I do like the hype and the celebration ... but you get a chance every year.
Think I'm being a bit churlish but ...
It's not the Olympics, or FIFA WC, or RWC where you get one shot every four years.
Great achievement, and it's cool every year.
But the Aussie Roolz states do hype it up I reckon
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Geelong with a dominant first half. Inside 50s, ruck taps, contested possessions and getting run off halfback is where they are killing them.
