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  • HigginsH Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #10

    I will take a punt and elect to following as home games for The Bay

    Evens group
    Southland
    Otago
    Counties

    Odds group
    Manawatu
    North Harbour
    Northland
    Ta$man (just to keep their Shield torment going!)

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    #11

    @bovidae said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

    @kiwiwomble Let's be honest, the 4 QFs are just a way to provide Sky with 4 extra games. I'd be perfectly happy if the top 2 teams from each conference play each other in cross-over SFs and go from there.

    Or have a complete round robin, plus just to two in the final. Same amount of weekends. Same as super rugby, including every man and his dog in the knock outs. SR could do play everyone home and away, only top two final. I really hate these lop sided shit comp set ups.

    Still this is better than before, both SR and NPC

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    @machpants i'd be up for that

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  • Dan54D Offline
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    Personally I think it not perfect, but a bloody great improvement anyway. I am stoked and already looking forward to it.

    Oh ang Go The Naki". I have decided I am well settled here now so better nail my colours to the wall!!!

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #14

    good and easy change, the last one was stupid.

    too many playing finals though.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #15

    I just want a full season of NPC footy!

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @hooroo said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

    @kiwiwomble said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

    Kind of like it....but that could just because we've been stuck i the championship...for its entire existence

    New competition format for the Bunnings Warehouse NPC

    New competition format for the Bunnings Warehouse NPC

    New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has announced the new format for the Bunnings Warehouse NPC with all 14 Provincial Unions to compete for one National Provincial Championship title.

    New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has announced the new format for the Bunnings Warehouse NPC with all 14 Provincial Unions to compete for one National Provincial Championship title.
    The Bunnings NPC will see Provincial Unions seeded into two conferences based on the previous season standings for round robin matches and quarterfinals. Teams placed 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13 sit within the Odds conference and teams placed 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 sit within the Evens conference for the season ahead. The round robin includes four crossover matches per team, where teams from the Odds conference will play teams from the Evens conference. 
    
    
    The quarterfinals include the top four teams within each conference playing for a spot in the semi-finals. With the top two teams across the conferences playing against each other in the semi-finals, to then see the top two qualifiers play off in the NPC final. All matches will be broadcast live and exclusive on Sky.
    
    The pools and seedings for the 2022 Bunnings Warehouse NPC are as follows: 
     
    
    ODDS	                            EVENS
    (1) Waikato 	                 (2)  Ta$man
    (3) Hawke's Bay 	         (4) Canterbury
    (5) Bay of Plenty 	         (6) Auckland
    (7) Wellington	                 (8) Taranaki
    (9) Otago	                        (10) Manawatū 
    (11) Southland	        (12) North Harbour 
    (13) Counties Manukau 	(14) Northland
    

    Much prefer the odds side. That evens side looks quite tough.

    In theory the evens side should be weaker conference. If things ended up the way they went in by ranking the evens conference 'quartfinals' would be Ta$man v Naki and Canterbury v Auckland!

    I gather the first year will be the reshuffling one.

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  • Dan54D Offline
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    #17

    Yep crucial and might make a differenc how the 4 corssover matches work too.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #18

    Allocate the crossover games randomly rather than teams getting to choose their opponents.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @bovidae said in New NPC format:

    Allocate the crossover games randomly rather than teams getting to choose their opponents.

    I hadn't read that part.
    Surely there is a fair way of allocating crossovers when teams are ranked?

    The 'choosing' thing is a sop to teams that want to ensure traditionals and/or derbies, which makes sense for crowds I guess.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial said in New NPC format:

    crowds

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #21

    @crucial said in New NPC format:

    @bovidae said in New NPC format:

    Allocate the crossover games randomly rather than teams getting to choose their opponents.

    I hadn't read that part.
    Surely there is a fair way of allocating crossovers when teams are ranked?

    The 'choosing' thing is a sop to teams that want to ensure traditionals and/or derbies, which makes sense for crowds I guess.

    other sports (im thinking AFL) would make that an event, like a draft night, where teams have to stand up and accept/veto/trade away game, the kind of thing to build some excitement preseason

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #22

    @mariner4life OK. easier travel for mums and dads then

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    being able to choose who you play where everyone is in the same comp, and not everyone plays everyone, is one of the stupider ideas for a sporting competition i have ever heard.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #24

    @mariner4life said in New NPC format:

    being able to choose who you play where everyone is in the same comp, and not everyone plays everyone, is one of the stupider ideas for a sporting competition i have ever heard.

    That applied to the previous format and was based on the seedings. The earlier you could choose the more options you had. My point was that I hope they do something different in this "new" NPC to make it fairer (given the format).

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    #25

    I like it, much better. It's a shame that final 5 system isn't being used as I always liked that - good incentive to finish at the top. QFs is too many finals, if I had to pick I would just go with Semi/Final and be done with it.

    Be a shitfight at the end of the tournament to get in and then a short sharp finals series.

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    #26

    The only thing that is a real positive for such a high percentage of teams in finals of NPC (and SR) is that more teams have something to fight for. The less in the finals, the early teams get knocked out and that changes the stakes of their games

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  • dogmeatD Offline
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    #27

    It is a vast improvement, but given Finals series were introduced to get spectators to the grounds and no one goes that much any more I think I'd prefer a full round robin with no finals series.

    It would take the same number of weeks to complete, would be a far fairer system, you would get a true season champion and Sky would get 14 more games.

    Travel costs might be an issue and I'm guessing this notion will go down with the majority like a shit sandwich, but hey I'm a traditionalist.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
    #28

    @kiwiwomble said in New NPC format:

    two conferences based on the previous season standings for round robin matches and quarterfinals. Teams placed 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13 sit within the Odds conference and teams placed 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14

    Who could possibly have conceived of such a notion all those years ago ...

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Crucial
    #29

    Little bump here with an added pic of how the playoffs work as the rest of this thread has probably been long forgotten

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