Ashes 2021-22
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@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:
Fuck, what a way to get out. Poor old Buttler. Devastating for him after such a defiant innings.
That was just plain cruel. Had the makings of an innings to go into the memories.
Had he pulled off that survival heist, Alex Carey would have had nightmares for a long time...
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@nta said in Ashes 2021-22:
What the FUCK was that, DRS?
Hit him in the shin half a step out and going over???
There was a later one from Lyon where ball tracking dipped the trajectory to hit the stumps.
I don't know how it can accurately predict the behaviour of the ball after pitching. We often see balls surprise by keeping low or getting unusual sharp bounce. Especially with spinners that can put over/under spin on the ball. -
@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
I don't know how it can accurately predict the behaviour of the ball after pitching.
It can't. Basically it's an 'unbiased' 3rd party system that is agreed to with the idea that, like the whole concept of DRS, it's there to help overturn the clangers.
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@kiwimurph said in Ashes 2021-22:
@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
I don't know how it can accurately predict the behaviour of the ball after pitching.
It can't. Basically it's an 'unbiased' 3rd party system that is agreed to with the idea that, like the whole concept of DRS, it's there to help overturn the clangers.
Which is why I still don't think that the balance is right (much like the rugby TMO).
Clangers are something that was missed but obvious. Ball hitting bat on LBWs. Ball pitching outside leg. Ball missing by miles, 'catches' off the pad.
Instead we get referrals and dismissals when even the whole fielding team debate whether to refer while assessing the chance of ball tracking going in their favour.Reduce the call time to 5 seconds.
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@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:
@nta said in Ashes 2021-22:
Anyway, thank fuck for that. Looking very poor from our blokes out there for a long period, with a lack of plan evident.
I'll take it. Bring back Cider for Neser and we'll be right.
Dude, it's Adelaide, under the sun it's a road.
There's a reason it's the designated pink ball test every summer.
This series is like the old shit day's where England turn up and get flogged through 5 games
Trouble with the pink ball is that the danger period can coincide with a new cherry.
If a team can bat first on a road for 5 sessions they then get the twilight period with a new ball and the test can be as good as over in two days.
The need for very good openers is emphasised hugely.
England don't have very good openers.Maybe that points to the fielding team needing to rush through their overs on the first day - bowling mainly spinners, so that they get 20+ overs with their second new ball under lights on Day 1.
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It seems like we've had way more 5th day showdowns in the last 2-3 years than we've had previously. Teams hanging on for the draw, falling just short or chasing down big 4th innings totals.
We're not great at putting teams away, but I also wonder if the pitches are better/more durable than they have been in the past. Pitches don't break down like they used to. No balls springing up off a length or staying at ankle height.
And it was the same thing last night. I don't think this pitch was a road at all - no batsman ever looked super comfortable, except for maybe an hour of Root and Malan and an hour of Smith and Carey. And yet it didn't give much at all to the bowlers on day 5.
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@nta said in Ashes 2021-22:
Anyway, thank fuck for that. Looking very poor from our blokes out there for a long period, with a lack of plan evident.
I'll take it. Bring back Cider for Neser and we'll be right.
I had to look up why he’s called Cider. Do the team actually call him by that name?
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@scribe said in Ashes 2021-22:
@nta said in Ashes 2021-22:
Anyway, thank fuck for that. Looking very poor from our blokes out there for a long period, with a lack of plan evident.
I'll take it. Bring back Cider for Neser and we'll be right.
I had to look up why he’s called Cider. Do the team actually call him by that name?
i hope to god it's only low breed bogan fuckwits that do
the same that use the term "michelle" and cheer when a bowler holds the ball up
dead shits the lot of them
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@mariner4life I suppose there is previous form with names like that. Didn’t ex-Wallaby Mark Chisholm get given the nickname ‘Covered in’ by some teammates?
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Pat Cummins' nickname is "Cider" (think about it…) You can often hear the Australian players calling him this. It's problematic for Cricket Australia, given that they lost one captain because of what someone put into his underwear, and another because of what he took out of his underwear.
From a Cricinfo article
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@barbarian said in Ashes 2021-22:
It seems like we've had way more 5th day showdowns in the last 2-3 years than we've had previously. Teams hanging on for the draw, falling just short or chasing down big 4th innings totals.
We're not great at putting teams away, but I also wonder if the pitches are better/more durable than they have been in the past. Pitches don't break down like they used to. No balls springing up off a length or staying at ankle height.
Its probably more that the current side scores at 3.25-3.5 an over rather than 3.75-4.0 an over at home that the Waugh/Ponting era teams were able to. That difference creates at least an extra session for the bowlers to do their work and makes four sessions to save a test five.
Many reasons for that, mainly a weaker batting line up and bowling attacks across the world getting much deeper. No matter how badly this tour is going for England it is hard to see them fielding an uncompetitive bowling line up even if several injuries strike and with Archer already on the sidelines.
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@scribe said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mariner4life I suppose there is previous form with names like that. Didn’t ex-Wallaby Mark Chisholm get given the nickname ‘Covered in’ by some teammates?
Nicknames like that are media creations 95% of the time. Some bloke probably said it once and it took off from there. Aussie nicknames are way less witty than that. His nickname was always 'Chis' as far as I know.
Imagine calling a bloke 'covered in'. It's got one more syllable than his actual name.
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@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
@kiwimurph said in Ashes 2021-22:
@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
I don't know how it can accurately predict the behaviour of the ball after pitching.
It can't. Basically it's an 'unbiased' 3rd party system that is agreed to with the idea that, like the whole concept of DRS, it's there to help overturn the clangers.
Which is why I still don't think that the balance is right (much like the rugby TMO).
Clangers are something that was missed but obvious. Ball hitting bat on LBWs. Ball pitching outside leg. Ball missing by miles, 'catches' off the pad.
Instead we get referrals and dismissals when even the whole fielding team debate whether to refer while assessing the chance of ball tracking going in their favour.Reduce the call time to 5 seconds.
Don't think the balance is as bad as you think, but don't fundamentally disagree. Clear and obvious should be the standard to overturn - but man, some of the tight tight LBW, and some of the whiper thin edges are tough to be hung or reprieved on.
I agree with you on reducing the time. Make it really clear that it should be for howlers, and let the umpires get on with the umpiring.
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@mariner4life what’s Michelle used for? And what’s so bad about Cummins Cider….
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@yeahtheboys said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mariner4life what’s Michelle used for? And what’s so bad about Cummins Cider….
A five wicket bag aka a 5-fer sounds like Pfeiffer, hence Michelle.
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@yeahtheboys said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mariner4life what’s Michelle used for? And what’s so bad about Cummins Cider….
I had to look it up too.
Wikipedia says:
"Australian cricketers use the rhyming slang "getting a Michelle" when they take five wickets in an innings. This means they have taken "Five for" which has become a "Pfeiffer" and hence a "Michelle", in reference to Michelle Pfeiffer."
"Cummins Cider" is a mystery to me.
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@mick-gold-coast-qld said in Ashes 2021-22:
@yeahtheboys said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mariner4life what’s Michelle used for? And what’s so bad about Cummins Cider….
I had to look it up too.
Wikipedia says:
"Australian cricketers use the rhyming slang "getting a Michelle" when they take five wickets in an innings. This means they have taken "Five for" which has become a "Pfeiffer" and hence a "Michelle", in reference to Michelle Pfeiffer."
"Cummins Cider" is a mystery to me.
So naive……or taking the piss.
