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  • DiceD Offline
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    #367

    <p>Does this confirm Ardie's made the All Blacks? I'm not convinced he'd pull the pin on a potential Gold medal just to keep playing for the Canes. If it were me, the only reason I'd drop the 7s is if I'm guaranteed something worthwhile for it.</p>

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    <p>Somewhere in Christchurch:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>"FUCK!!!"</p>

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    Yes that was my thoughts, a super rugby title ahead of a gold medal ??<br><br>
    An ab selection is more believable .

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Dice" data-cid="574468" data-time="1461459639">
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    <p>Does this confirm Ardie's made the All Blacks? I'm not convinced he'd pull the pin on a potential Gold medal just to keep playing for the Canes. If it were me, the only reason I'd drop the 7s is if I'm guaranteed something worthwhile for it.</p>
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    <p>I'd be a bit surprised if the AB selectors were giving those sort of guarantees - especially to someone who, at best, is going to be the back-up openside.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I reckon it's a bit more likely he's protecting his  place in the queue - recognizing that if Matt Todd (or even Blake Gibson) gets his foot firmly in the door and plays well, it might be pretty hard to dislodge him.  </p>

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    <p>Ardie obviously rang Steve...</p>
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    <p><img src="http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/jim-carrey1-428x292.jpeg" alt="jim-carrey1-428x292.jpeg"></p>

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    Damn.

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    <p>As a Hurricanes fan, I want to see Ardie play for the Hurricanes.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm surprised at all the conspiracy theories that come out of the woodwork whenever something happens. Apparently the All Blacks <strong>must</strong> have shoulder tapped Ardie, even though they say they did not.</p>

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    <p>Wouldn't mind betting the physical demands had a part to play, in that apparently you have to lose mass, adopt a different body shape and fitness regimes and perhaps going from 15's to 7's and then back to 15's in the space of a year may have been pretty arduous.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>On the bright side, it's good that the allure of the AB (reserves) jersey is still a factor</p>
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    <p>As for the thoughts that Shag has somehow instructed this, pffft. How would that conversation go?</p>
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    <p>Ardie is good but NZ do not NEED him, or anyone else for that matter</p>

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    <p>So the AB bench for the forwards could be : Crockett, Taylor, Faumuina, Luatua and Savea.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="574460" data-time="1461457499">
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    <p>From One Sport:<br>
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    <p>Great move.  I guess sevens is just not that big a deal to me and in the Olympics?  Kind of like golf.  Have no interest.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="574495" data-time="1461474244">
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    <p>As a Hurricanes fan, I want to see Ardie play for the Hurricanes.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm surprised at all the conspiracy theories that come out of the woodwork whenever something happens. Apparently the All Blacks <strong>must</strong> have shoulder tapped Ardie, even though they say they did not.</p>
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    <p>Im surprised that you're surprised. </p>

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    <p>From what I saw of Savea play, it may be the opposite.  Shoulder tapped by Tietjens to say, it' ain't happening, focus on 15's.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Razbra" data-cid="574673" data-time="1461563877"><p>
    Im surprised that you're surprised.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    I'm surprised that you're surprised that he's surprised.

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    NZ rugby says they weren't expecting it.<br><br>
    That means not from either Titch or the All Blacks.<br><br>
    So it's the Hurricanes where his priorities lie, either because of pressure from Boyd or not.

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    It's just a personal decision that he wants to crack the ABs as soon as possible, nothing to do with what any coach has said to him. With Cane, Todd and Gibson tearing shit up it's a bit of a no brainer that taking time out for 7s is going to set you back a lot. Become a regular AB and your market value sky rockets.

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="574683" data-time="1461566381">
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    <p>It's just a personal decision that he wants to crack the ABs as soon as possible, nothing to do with what any coach has said to him. With Cane, Todd and Gibson tearing shit up it's a bit of a no brainer that taking time out for 7s is going to set you back a lot. Become a regular AB and your market value sky rockets.</p>
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    <p>Yep. Guys like Williams and Messam, they've got nothing left to prove in 15's, they've done it all, at the very highest level. They can afford to go yeah, new challenge, burn it up. But Savea hasn't proven himself fully anywhere yet, and bouncing between 15's and 7's won't help him, especially with the diet and mass and fitness stuff, and other guys who are crazy hungry to be back up flanker to Cane. The AB world won't wait for Savea, and he knows it.</p>

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    Shouldn't have committed to it if he wasn't going to follow through. Took up space on the squad in Welly and Sydney for no benefit (apart from jelping win those tournaments). <br><br>
    I reckon it was Boyd who put the pressure on. My own completely ill informed conspiracy. <br><br>
    Who is Saveas back up in the Canes' 7 jersey?

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="574705" data-time="1461571281">
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    <p>Shouldn't have committed to it if he wasn't going to follow through. Took up space on the squad in Welly and Sydney for no benefit (apart from jelping win those tournaments).<br><br>
    I reckon it was Boyd who put the pressure on. My own completely ill informed conspiracy.<br><br>
    Who is Saveas back up in the Canes' 7 jersey?</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Yeah I'm with ya, it's a conspiracy, common sense, common schmense! </p>

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    <p>I don't know if Boyd had anything to do with it but I do think it's pretty shit Ardie went back on his word this close to the Olympics, wasting a lot of time and energy put into him that could've gone to someone else. I guess it's a good thing he did end up withdrawing before it was too late though, no point including someone who isn't committed to the cause.</p>

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  • No QuarterN Online
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    No Quarter
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    #386

    TBH who would want to go to Rio anyway? It's a bloody shambles. Cycle tracks collapsing, stadiums not completed, protests at the government as they really should never have even bid for the Olympics due to the extreme cost, all compounded by the Zika virus which they now say can be contracted by men and passed on to their partners. Personally I'd rather take my chances with the ABs. He's pulled out with plenty of time for Tietjens to adjust any plans he had with his squad - Ardie wasn't even a sure thing at this stage.

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