2016 World Sevens Series

Stargazer

IMO Savea's decision is a bigger gain for the Canes than a loss for the Sevens squad.
 
It would be much worse if the Ioane brothers made this choice.

kiwiinmelb

I wonder if he is in the sights of the ab selectors and a decision has been made where he is of most value ?

taniwharugby

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be very disappointed and surprised if he has been 'pulled' given the NZRU have been copping a bit of shit about not putting enough emphasis on the 7's....
 
But his time in the 7s he wasnt as good as I expected, although more time he'd probably be much better.

kiwiinmelb

Yeah , I was thinking more along the lines tiej and Hanson may have discussed it's not working so well for him in the 7s .... if he's not a lot of value to you , we could certainly use him sort of thing . 
Dunno , just a thought .

Dice

Does this confirm Ardie's made the All Blacks? I'm not convinced he'd pull the pin on a potential Gold medal just to keep playing for the Canes. If it were me, the only reason I'd drop the 7s is if I'm guaranteed something worthwhile for it.

Nepia

Somewhere in Christchurch:
 
"FUCK!!!"

kiwiinmelb

Yes that was my thoughts, a super rugby title ahead of a gold medal ?? 
An ab selection is more believable .

Chris B.

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Does this confirm Ardie's made the All Blacks? I'm not convinced he'd pull the pin on a potential Gold medal just to keep playing for the Canes. If it were me, the only reason I'd drop the 7s is if I'm guaranteed something worthwhile for it.
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I'd be a bit surprised if the AB selectors were giving those sort of guarantees - especially to someone who, at best, is going to be the back-up openside.
 
I reckon it's a bit more likely he's protecting his place in the queue - recognizing that if Matt Todd (or even Blake Gibson) gets his foot firmly in the door and plays well, it might be pretty hard to dislodge him.

taniwharugby

Ardie obviously rang Steve...
 
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booboo

Damn.

hydro11

As a Hurricanes fan, I want to see Ardie play for the Hurricanes.
 
I'm surprised at all the conspiracy theories that come out of the woodwork whenever something happens. Apparently the All Blacks must have shoulder tapped Ardie, even though they say they did not.

Siam

Wouldn't mind betting the physical demands had a part to play, in that apparently you have to lose mass, adopt a different body shape and fitness regimes and perhaps going from 15's to 7's and then back to 15's in the space of a year may have been pretty arduous.
 
On the bright side, it's good that the allure of the AB (reserves) jersey is still a factor
 
As for the thoughts that Shag has somehow instructed this, pffft. How would that conversation go?
 
Ardie is good but NZ do not NEED him, or anyone else for that matter

cgrant

So the AB bench for the forwards could be : Crockett, Taylor, Faumuina, Luatua and Savea.

broughie

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Great move. I guess sevens is just not that big a deal to me and in the Olympics? Kind of like golf. Have no interest.

raznomore

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As a Hurricanes fan, I want to see Ardie play for the Hurricanes.
 
I'm surprised at all the conspiracy theories that come out of the woodwork whenever something happens. Apparently the All Blacks must have shoulder tapped Ardie, even though they say they did not.
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Im surprised that you're surprised.

MajorRage

From what I saw of Savea play, it may be the opposite. Shoulder tapped by Tietjens to say, it' ain't happening, focus on 15's.

Crazy Horse

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I'm surprised that you're surprised that he's surprised.

Frye

NZ rugby says they weren't expecting it. 
That means not from either Titch or the All Blacks. 
So it's the Hurricanes where his priorities lie, either because of pressure from Boyd or not.

No Quarter

It's just a personal decision that he wants to crack the ABs as soon as possible, nothing to do with what any coach has said to him. With Cane, Todd and Gibson tearing shit up it's a bit of a no brainer that taking time out for 7s is going to set you back a lot. Become a regular AB and your market value sky rockets.

Mokey

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It's just a personal decision that he wants to crack the ABs as soon as possible, nothing to do with what any coach has said to him. With Cane, Todd and Gibson tearing shit up it's a bit of a no brainer that taking time out for 7s is going to set you back a lot. Become a regular AB and your market value sky rockets.
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Yep. Guys like Williams and Messam, they've got nothing left to prove in 15's, they've done it all, at the very highest level. They can afford to go yeah, new challenge, burn it up. But Savea hasn't proven himself fully anywhere yet, and bouncing between 15's and 7's won't help him, especially with the diet and mass and fitness stuff, and other guys who are crazy hungry to be back up flanker to Cane. The AB world won't wait for Savea, and he knows it.

The Silver Fern

2016 World Sevens Series