2016 World Sevens Series
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<p>you'd think that Fiji will be huge favorites as that game woulda sapped NZ big time, were a few end to end chases in that game.</p>
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I am losing my faith in Baker. I used to think he was the best in the field. Dunno anymore. As an outsider I enjoy All Blacks as you are the main opposition and he always stood out. I had wondered where he had gone to. Anyway his discipline really lets him down. If loses All Blacks a gold card one day due to a red or yellow card due to silly punch don't blame someone else. He really is the type of guy you could pick on under pressure. I thought the All Blacks would handle shit like this.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JAF" data-cid="571361" data-time="1460277388">
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<p>I am losing my faith in Baker. I used to think he was the best in the field. Dunno anymore. As an outsider I enjoy All Blacks as you are the main opposition and he always stood out. I had wondered where he had gone to. Anyway his discipline really lets him down. If loses All Blacks a gold card one day due to a red or yellow card due to silly punch don't blame someone else. He really is the type of guy you could pick on under pressure. I thought the All Blacks would handle shit like this.</p>
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<p>You mean the guy who just lead an underperforming NZ team to victory over SA with an excellently executed field position kick and then a pin perfect kick pass?</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="571363" data-time="1460277650"><p>
You mean the guy who just lead an underperforming NZ team to victory over SA with an excellently executed field position kick and then a pin perfect kick pass?<br><br>
Yeah, wilted under pressure...</p></blockquote>
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That's not what he meant and to be honest he may have a point. Baker can be a right dick sometimes. Hopefully he doesn't cost NZ dearly. -
<p>sure he can be a muppet (always has been - how long has he been in the 7s) but those 2 kicks were pure class.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="571363" data-time="1460277650">
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<p>You mean the guy who just lead an underperforming NZ team to victory over SA with an excellently executed field position kick and then a pin perfect kick pass?</p>
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<p>Yeah, wilted under pressure...</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crazy Horse" data-cid="571365" data-time="1460277968">
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<p>That's not what he meant and to be honest he may have a point. Baker can be a right dick sometimes. Hopefully he doesn't cost NZ dearly.</p>
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<p>So what's the solution drop him for the final?</p>
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<p>Has he cost NZ a final before? He scored 3 tries in the quarter and set up the semi win - but sure dwell on his potential to lose a game</p>
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<p>I agree he's prone to some distasteful histrionics at times but also proven to be one of the first players picked in the team. I'd rather trust in the team processes than slag him off on a hunch</p> -
I am not saying drop him. I am just saying he can be a dick. I think JAF was saying his sort of behaviour normally gets sorted in the NZ environment.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="571367" data-time="1460278393"><p>
So what's the solution drop him for the final?<br>
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Has he cost NZ a final before? He scored 3 tries in the quarter and set up the semi win - but sure dwell on his potential to lose a game<br>
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I agree he's prone to some distasteful histrionics at times but also proven to be one of the first players picked in the team. I'd rather trust in the team processes than slag him off on a hunch</p></blockquote><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crazy Horse" data-cid="571370" data-time="1460278579"><p>
I am not saying drop him. I am just saying he can be a dick. I think JAF was saying his sort of behaviour normally gets sorted in the NZ environment.</p></blockquote>I will say things as I have cooled down. Certain refs will do things different that is all. Back here in SA this ref (NZ vs SA game) has a bad reputation for missing things. I am just saying that Baker is a great player but must control discipline. Stick to basics and clean up the game. 7 vs 6 is hard to play. Only NZ plays 8 vs 7 at times. Lol. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JAF" data-cid="571336" data-time="1460276291"><p>
ever heard of late and high?</p></blockquote>
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<p>Earlier this tournament (Kenya?) Baker got a penalty reversed for mouthing off at the ref and then got himself carded for continuing to mouth off.</p>
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<p>Discipline is definitely a worry with him, but he's very talented and I'm sure he'll end up in the Rio squad.</p> -
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And the score was...<br><br>
I can tell you the weather.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JAF" data-cid="571375" data-time="1460280078"><p>
I will say things as I have cooled down. Certain refs will do things different that is all. Back here in SA this ref (NZ vs SA game) has a bad reputation for missing things. I am just saying that Baker is a great player but must control discipline. Stick to basics and clean up the game. 7 vs 6 is hard to play. Only NZ plays 8 vs 7 at times. Lol.</p></blockquote>
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Quite frankly i thought the ref was awful. Both ways.<br><br>
Two of those penalties we got on d later on i thought should have gone to the bokke<br><br><br>
Re Baker. I tend to think he's one of those niggly gits who never gets caught.<br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Glath" data-cid="571377" data-time="1460280414"><p>
Earlier this tournament (Kenya?) Baker got a penalty reversed for mouthing off at the ref and then got himself carded for continuing to mouth off.<br><br>
Discipline is definitely a worry with him, but he's very talented and I'm sure he'll end up in the Rio squad.</p></blockquote>
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But then i didnt know that ...
