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there are gonna be plenty of nervy fellas in a few teams in Aus & SA, a few NH teams be looking on expecting to get some bargains as well.
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SANZAAR Drop Nuts – Expands To Super Rugby 64 Teams In 2018
Posted on April 9, 2017 by thaicastle1 in Uncategorized // 0 CommentsAfter weeks of deliberation about who to cut from Super Rugby SANZAAR has dropped its nuts. Instead of cutting three teams from Super Rugby they have decided to add 46 new franchises in 2018.
SANZAAR president Jaco MakeMoMoney has told Thai Castle that the decision was relatively easy – “We thought long and hard and didn’t think that cutting teams would solve Super Rugby’s problems, so we were like why don’t we expand further and see if that makes the on-field product stronger.
From a New Zealand stand point four new franchises have been added which include the Marist Under-12s, Liston College 3rd XV, Wellington Phoenix and an All Blacks Over 75 year old squad.
NZ Rugby President Steve Tew said he was delighted to add the four new franchises saying that he thought they would add some real depth to New Zealand Rugby for generations to come.
Wellington Phoenix coach Chris Greenacre told Thai Castle “When we heard the news we were added to Super Rugby we were pretty flattered. It will be hard playing in two professional sports leagues at once but the boys think there soccer skills will come in handy on the rugby field. I mean all they do is kick the ball.”
The 64 team field has been split into 8 groups of 8 teams with each team playing 128 games in a 17 week span. The top first seeds from each group go to the best of 27 final series. With the remaining teams going into a survivor series were the team that loses the most games will tragically lose a limb at the discretion of SANZAAR officials.
The new teams added are:
Marist Under-12s
Liston College 3rd XV
Wellingtoin Phoenix
All Blacks Over 75s
Antarctica Frozen Peas
Dargaville Dental Assistants
Tottenham Hotspur
Bermuda Triangle Titans
Wedge Island Warriors
Compton Stealers
Donald Trump Wall Builders
Norwegian No-Shows
Kolkata Dayriders
The Beatles
Cleveland Cavaliers
London Bridge Free Ballers
French Frogleg Surprise
The Paris Croissants
The Glasgow Facepunches
The Alice Springs Drymouths
Queensland Bogans
Tokyo Toyotas
China Investor Squad
Killa Bees
Canada Chocalate Brownies
Mexican Eses
Zimbabwe Inflation
North Korea Naughty Boys
Pyongang Punishment
Pacific Ocean Oceans
Taj Mahal Revonators
The Brexits
The Barcelonas Ballsacks
The Scunthorpe Scotos
Canterbury Cum Stains
Georgia Goochs
North Pole Pole dancers
Santas Little Helpers
Colombia Narcos
American Idol Winners Selection
Ryan Seacrest Squad
The Carb-dashians
The Andrew Schultz’s
The Kelekefus
The Football Kings
Auckland Blues 2
Auckland Pooze
Dubai Oillers
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:
@akan004 Actually the nz derbies are increasing. Currently each nz team plays 6 derbies, from next year it will be 8.
I like the NZ derbies. Also means less travel for our players.
I get the appeal of round robin, but from a selfish point of view I'll take more NZ derbies. It also means the games against the other conferences have some novelty appeal, like the Chiefs vs Stormers yesterday.
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
@Damo although our conference being the toughest is better for our rugby long term though
Possibly in the medium term, but what is best for our long term future is the continued viability of Super Rugby. Having so many dud teams from SA and Aus was slowly killing Super Rugby.
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@Damo Agree in the main - although (I as a dyed in the wool rugby supporter/diehard) - will watch all the SR games I can, I understand not everyone is the same, and admittedly some of the lop-sided results are not to everyone's palate and I can see why people might lose interest.
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I used to try and watch all games involving NZ teams ,
and now from an entertainment angle , its slowly evolved into trying to watch all NZ derbies
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The Force decision kind of makes sense - that time zone is a bit of a dead spot, and the complaint about the travel from Perth is valid.
The fucking bullshit they had with sponsors in the early years, as well as the issues with attracting talent so far away from families - also valid.
Recruiting South Africans, to the point where some people were sniggering about "Perthfontein" shows that the whole development argument is a bit of a dud.
I found Paul Cully's tweet interesting:
There will be some circling for players, but not coaches - rookies at all franchises.
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Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.
The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.
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@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:
@akan004 Actually the nz derbies are increasing. Currently each nz team plays 6 derbies, from next year it will be 8.
I like the NZ derbies. Also means less travel for our players.
I get the appeal of round robin, but from a selfish point of view I'll take more NZ derbies. It also means the games against the other conferences have some novelty appeal, like the Chiefs vs Stormers yesterday.
From what I remember, the last time we had 8 derbies a year the players didn't like them because they were the most intense matches on the calendar and as a result, led to more injuries.
Increasing the local derbies makes it a shitload harder for NZ teams to make the final six, so I'm not a fan at all. Last year, where we had four teams in the final six, will probably never happen in the new structure.
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@pukunui said in Super Rugby News:
Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.
The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.
Give that man a cold beer!!
That in a nutshell is exactly what is wrong with SR - the bloody format ie conference system is just crazy. Whatever happened to home and away FFS, something players and fans can understand. -
@pukunui said in Super Rugby News:
Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.
The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.
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Beauden Barrett will front a Sanzaar judiciary on Monday night for his double yellow card effort against the Waratahs. Sanzaar's foul play review committee looked at the incidents on Sunday night and decided there was a case to answer for World Rugby's 2016 player of the year. The judicial committee for the video conference hearing will be Adam Casselden SC (Chairman), Mike Mika and De Wet Barry.
This will be a test case in the event another player also receives 2 YCs in the future.
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
Beauden Barrett will front a Sanzaar judiciary on Monday night for his double yellow card effort against the Waratahs. Sanzaar's foul play review committee looked at the incidents on Sunday night and decided there was a case to answer for World Rugby's 2016 player of the year. The judicial committee for the video conference hearing will be Adam Casselden SC (Chairman), Mike Mika and De Wet Barry.
This will be a test case in the event another player also receives 2 YCs in the future.
Surely no case to answer. No foul play should mean no sanction. I can't even imagine a scenario where a professional foul would warrant a ban. Maybe the "Hand of Back"? Even that's pushing it.
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@pukunui said in Super Rugby News:
Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.
The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.
It wasn't broke when it was Super 12. Why did the fisheads ( great description btw Norm Hewitt ) feel the need to fix it? I do understand expansion and adding a couple of teams but the convoluted and confusing nature of the competition means it has alienated a shitload of fans which is typified by attendances at games.
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The people making the decisions at Sanzaar really do need to be taken out back and shot. Their idiotic decisions have been leeching the life out of the comp ever since the move to the Super 14. Either have a proper conference system or a proper round robin system, this in-between bullshit (and 8 teams making the finals!) is a mess.
As for BB, I think one week would be fair. If the yellow cards were for two different infringements, that'd be one thing, but the same exact infringement twice in the same game? That's just fucking dumb.
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sometimes i think we are too hard on SANZAAR. They are trying to create a competition that ticks so many boxes (exposure, revenue raising, fairness, development of 4 different domestic games) but has to overcome some very significant hurdles (geography, distance, small markets, poor economies).
And it has to do well enough to compete with a Northern competition that has all the worlds biggest rugby markets in a geographical location smaller than Australia. But fuck loads more people and money.
And we as fans want everything. Lots to watch on TV, but at the times we want. We want quality (more games against NZ teams!), and we want variety (less games against NZ teams!). And we as kiwi fans are one of 5 sets of fans that the governing body has to keep happy.
Then politically, every country wants something different. We want a competition that provides the best All Blacks. Aus want a competition that is big enough domestically to grow their player base and compete with the other codes. South Africa need to use it as a change agent. The Japanese and Argentinians just want a seat at a table.
How the fuck do you make everyone happy given those agendas, and still give the broadcaster something they like enough to pay you the money you require to pay for your players? Players who will be offered shitloads to play elsewhere.
Short term this change probably helps. But is it really a long-term strategy? Will this competition ever really work? Do we know what "work" looks like (I mean for everyone, not just NZ).
