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@Billy-Tell I did not mean he is good enough for All Blacks but a very good super rugby player who can play in a number of positions
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Mitchell Drummond gone until the early rounds of Super rugby next year with a broken leg. I doubt he'll come back full of confidence and on fire. Given that he was presumably going to be our number one halfback, that's an unfortunate start to Razor's reign.
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@Chris-B. said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Mitchell Drummond gone until the early rounds of Super rugby next year with a broken leg. I doubt he'll come back full of confidence and on fire. Given that he was presumably going to be our number one halfback, that's an unfortunate start to Razor's reign.
Not sure he was going to be your first choice halfback; Bryn Hall is better than Drummond and was more likely to start anyway. Unfortunate, nevertheless.
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@Stargazer - Not sure I would have bet heavily against Drummond getting the first crack. He's been one of Razor's boys for several years - recruited him for Canterbury out of Nelson College.
Whereas Hall is a Blackadder signing and effectively pushed out of the Blues by Billy Guyton, which isn't a great recommendation.
Can't really say I'm a great fan of either - but, they're both doubtless better than Fukafuka!
In any case, Drummond's injury has certainly opened the door for Hall.
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@Chris-B. said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Stargazer - Not sure I would have bet heavily against Drummond getting the first crack. He's been one of Razor's boys for several years - recruited him for Canterbury out of Nelson College.
Whereas Hall is a Blackadder signing and effectively pushed out of the Blues by Billy Guyton, which isn't a great recommendation.
Can't really say I'm a great fan of either - but, they're both doubtless better than Fukafuka!
In any case, Drummond's injury has certainly opened the door for Hall.
Hall wasn't pushed out of the Blues by Billy Guyton but by Augustine Pulu! That's a considerable difference.
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Guyton is still at the Blues, Hall isn't.
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I guess none of us are privy to the discussions, but it seemed to me like Hall started last season as the Blues number one halfback, but around mid-season Guyton took that mantle off him and got the majority of the starts in the second half of the season (as a Mako$ supporter I was very happy about this).
Hard to think that Tana wouldn't have wanted to keep Hall if he thought he was significantly better than Guyton, given that No. 2 halfback isn't an unimportant position. And Pulu wouldn't be the first halfback to move franchises for a number one slot and then bomb (e.g. Kevin Senio).
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@Chris-B Mate, your memory is due an upgrade. Guyton only started in rounds 2, 13 and 14. Hall started in all other rounds. By the way, I checked that.
Also, it's more likely that Hall wanted to move than that Tana wouldn't want to keep him. The announcement of Pulu's signing was made on 11 April 2016; Hall's signing with the Crusaders was announced on 9 June. I mean, why would Hall want to stay at the Blues if he has to do a step down from no. 1 halfback to number 2, while he can seriously compete for the no. 1 halfback spot at the Crusaders where he's replacing Ellis.
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
> @Chris-B Mate, your memory is due an upgrade. Guyton only started in rounds 2, 13 and 14. Hall started in all other rounds. By the way, I checked that.
Fair enough - I would have checked myself, but frankly I couldn't be arsed. My memory was that Hall had lost his place after a drubbing in South Africa and Guyton played most of the remainder. Evidently incorrect. Possibly slanted by my impression that the previous season he also started out as number one halfback but gradually got supplanted by the other Mako$ halfback, Jimmy Cowan - possibly also incorrect (I haven't checked).
> Also, it's more likely that Hall wanted to move than that Tana wouldn't want to keep him. The announcement of Pulu's signing was made on 11 April 2016; Hall's signing with the Crusaders was announced on 9 June. I mean, why would Hall want to stay at the Blues if he has to do a step down from no. 1 halfback to number 2, while he can seriously compete for the no. 1 halfback spot at the Crusaders where he's replacing Ellis.
I don't think that really follows, though. If you're the number one halfback at a franchise, why wouldn't you want to stay and fight for your spot? It's only Pulu that they've signed and - if you're correct about Hall's place in the NZ pecking order, he'd have to be roughly 6th to Pulu's roughly 5th.
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Fair enough - I would have checked myself, but frankly I couldn't be arsed. My memory was that Hall had lost his place after a drubbing in South Africa and Guyton played most of the remainder. Evidently incorrect. Possibly slanted by my impression that the previous season he also started out as number one halfback but gradually got supplanted by the other Mako$ halfback, Jimmy Cowan - possibly also incorrect (I haven't checked).
Bryn Hall didn't play the year prior (2015) as he was out pretty much all season injured. I don't think he played one minute for the Blues in 2015.
But yes Guyton was contracted for another year (2017) and they have young Nock signed up for a while. Based on this Blues would have known this when they signed Pulu that Hall would go.
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Bryn Hall didn't play the year prior (2015) as he was out pretty much all season injured. I don't think he played one minute for the Blues in 2015.
Well, let's hope he turns out to be fucking good at the Crusaders. A revelation who is two steps up on Drummie would be most welcome!
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Fuck Bryn Hall and Leon Fukofuka as the 2 halfbacks to choose from would hardly inspire me with confidence (both Blues outcasts as well). Maybe Jono Hickey could join as cover for Drummond as well.
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@African-Monkey said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Fuck Bryn Hall and Leon Fukofuka as the 2 halfbacks to choose from would hardly inspire me with confidence (both Blues outcasts as well). Maybe Jono Hickey could join as cover for Drummond as well.
They have tried to sign him before.
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@Tim Hahaha forgot about that. Northern Districts blocked it didn't they? Fuck talk about scraping the barrel....
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Blues re-signed for 2017 campaign: Prattley, Francis, Scrafton, Cowley-Tuioti, Mafileo, Kara Pryor
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@KiwiMurph Source?
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Francis has developed quite well IMO. It will be good to have him and West backing Jordie Barrett up in that 10 spot next season.
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And he is not the standard bash and crash merchant so widely praised in a lot of areas.
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I'm surprised he's re-signed. I just assumed he'd go back to England, probably make more money, and try and compete for an England shirt. Wouldn't they snap him up over there?
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I suspect in a similar situation in Blues enviroments of the past he would have bailed - bit of an example of how the culture looks to have changed at the Blues.
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Where's he gonna play in the Blues backline? SBW and Moala will be fighting it out at 12. So does Tana ruin all the time invested into Ihaia West and pick Piers at 10?
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@Wurzel Unlikely, he'll probably be bench cover, but will start the season at 12 with SBWs injury.
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Confirmed Jordie Barrett to the Canes for 2 years.
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Confirmed Jordie Barrett to the Canes for 2 years.
Wow. Good signing for wellington and he is a better kicker than his brother no?
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I imagine he will be slotting in at fullback next season.
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@hydro11 said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
I imagine he will be slotting in at fullback next season.
What is NMS's preferred position? Fullback or wing? Jane has still one year on his contract, hasn't he?
With both Woodward and Marshall going, will the other newbie be Peter Umaga-Jensen?I guess the likes of Mason Emerson and Jonah Lowe will miss out again at the Canes?
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Interesting interview with Jordie:
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Yay
finally a signing that I'm actually excited about. Goodhue has developed both physically and as a smart footballer this year. Looks to be a natural 13.
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Charlie Ngatai not progressing well enough: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11713944
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North Harbour rugby coach Steve Jackson has been appointed as assistant coach (forwards) for the Blues
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Well that was entirely predictable. Interesting to see who the skills coach is going to be.
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So, who has the hot rumours about next season's squads?
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Interesting, according to NZ Herald
Chiefs and All Blacks centre Seta Tamanivalu is set to sign with the Crusaders for the 2017 Super Rugby season, sources have confirmed.
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Interesting, according to NZ Herald
Chiefs and All Blacks centre Seta Tamanivalu is set to sign with the Crusaders for the 2017 Super Rugby season, sources have confirmed.
Excellent, good stuff Razor
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@KiwiMurph I wouldn't be starting him next year for the Chiefs ahead of ALB and Ngatai. The only issue will be if Ngatai has concussion problems again.
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News: Injuries: @KiwiMurph
and that is a pretty major issue by the sounds of it
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