The NRL Season of 2016
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<p>Get over it Nepia, Bluey was a shit club coach.</p>
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<p>Look, i think the coach is shit. I think the coach needs to go. But before he gets the arse, i want to know who is taking over. It can't be internal, because they are tainted already. Who is the upgrade? </p>
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<p>"losing the dressing room" is bullshit speak for players not trying. </p>
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<p>Kata is very limited. But he puts in, and he's being effective. Those are not words you can use to describe a large portion of the squad. And certainly not words you could use for Hurrell for the vast majority of his "career" </p> -
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<p>The players get beaten with the stick all the time at the Warrior (aside from in the Auckland media). I was sticking the boot into the players for a long time last year (especially at the live games I went to) but after a while you realise it's systemic and the guy at the top drives those systems. </p>
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<p>so we have had 4 or 5 dud coaches in a row?</p> -
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<div><br><p>"losing the dressing room" is bullshit speak for players not trying. </p>
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<p>Amen.</p>
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<p>The coach might be Basil Fawlty, but if that's their excuse for phoning it in and barely defending week after week, then that's soft.</p> -
The two are not mutually exclusive. Incompetent coach + unprofessional players = recipe for disaster.
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<p>Get over it Nepia, Bluey was a shit club coach.</p>
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<p>Look, i think the coach is shit. I think the coach needs to go. But before he gets the arse, i want to know who is taking over. It can't be internal, because they are tainted already. Who is the upgrade? </p>
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<p>"losing the dressing room" is bullshit speak for players not trying. </p>
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<p>Kata is very limited. But he puts in, and he's being effective. Those are not words you can use to describe a large portion of the squad. And certainly not words you could use for Hurrell for the vast majority of his "career" </p>
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<p>FFS, I didn't invent the term - it was used by the anti Bluey brigade to knock him down a peg.</p>
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<p>Cappy is a shit club coach. Why do you want me to get over one but not the other?</p> -
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<p>The two are not mutually exclusive. Incompetent coach + unprofessional players = recipe for disaster.</p>
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<p>They're not, but thankfully Jim Doyle is at least diverting from the "shit results only means a shit coach" mantra of some fans and previous Warriors administrators...</p>
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<p>In recent years I've wondered if even Wayne Bennett/Craig Bellamy could sort some of this lot out.</p> -
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I read this a few days ago about Bellamy's pre season. I reckon he'd "lose the dressing room" pretty quickly at the Warriors if he made them train like that -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="582533" data-time="1464154389">
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<p>The two are not mutually exclusive. Incompetent coach + unprofessional players = recipe for disaster.</p>
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<p>common denominator being?</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="582544" data-time="1464155865"><p>common denominator being?</p></blockquote>
Both - when was the last time we had a good coach?<br><br>
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<p>how do you know they havent had a good coach but the deep seated issues at the club havent ruined his career and made him look bad?</p>
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<p>Artent they doing an independant review at present, hopefully this will highlight the issues.</p> -
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<p>FFS, I didn't invent the term - it was used by the anti Bluey brigade to knock him down a peg.</p>
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<p>Cappy is a shit club coach. Why do you want me to get over one but not the other?</p>
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<p>I don't, but you keep bringing Bluey up like he's relevant in some way, or was hard done by. He wasn't, and he's not relevant, except as another example of a failed appointment. Did we get better when he left?</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">In recent years I've wondered if even Wayne Bennett/Craig Bellamy could sort some of this lot out.
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<p>oi that's my line!</p> -
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I read this a few days ago about Bellamy's pre season. I reckon he'd "lose the dressing room" pretty quickly at the Warriors if he made them train like that</p>
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<p>But but but, it's been the Warriors best preseason ever, they're fitter this year than they've ever been!</p>
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<p>(At least, isn't that what we read every February...)</p> -
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<p>Exactly and every year it becomes plainly obvious that we are one of the least fit teams in the comp</p>
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<p>If it was actually true that each year's Warriors squad had been fitter than the last... the '95 Warriors must have needed the changing room doors to be removed before they could gently waddle out onto Mount Smart.</p> -
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<p>I don't, but you keep bringing Bluey up like he's relevant in some way, or was hard done by. He wasn't, and he's not relevant, except as another example of a failed appointment. Did we get better when he left?</p>
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<p>oi that's my line!</p>
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<p>I bring up Bluey because he's a comparison, and a bloody similar one at that, and if Cappy gets the boot he wont be hard done by either. Cappy's a failed appointment yet people want him kept on just because other coaches have been fired. That's not a good enough reason for me.</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(247,247,247);">In recent years I've wondered if even Wayne Bennett/Craig Bellamy could sort some of this lot out.</span></p>
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<p>We might all need to chip in a few bucks to make this happen so that we can know definitively one way or another. </p> -
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<p>We might all need to chip in a few bucks to make this happen so that we can know definitively one way or another. </p>
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<p>Worth a go.</p> -
<p>havent they just freed up $500k?</p>
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<p>What a mess , I feel sorry for the die hard league people in NZ , they deserve better , </p>
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<p>I will always support the kiwis , but living in Melb , I follow the Storm at club level, </p>
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<p>Warriors are my second team and always hope they go well for NZs sake , but man , always seems like there is more pain than pleasure , some clubs are cursed </p> -
<p>Remember, there are two cursed clubs right now - Warriors and Parramatta. Norman to face the courts on drugs charges:</p>
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<p>Cappy is gone as coach, that much I know. Doyle didn't hire him so therefore Doyle doesn't have to show him any loyalty. This current crisis does give Doyle plenty of time to find and set his coach up for 2017. It might be Ivan Cleary but Doyle has a few months to prepare. Cappy could quit on his own, and that is in play, but he seems to be determined to be captain of the Titanic.</p>
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<p>Leuluai, Vatuvei, Hoffman, Robson will all find themselves being pushed out the door if the season continues this way. Doyle will want to free up cap-room (like he has with Hurrell) and kicking out a Hoffman or Vatuvei will definitely shake things up in the locker-room.</p>
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<p>Warriors lack leadership across the squad right now. When Cleary was coach, the last time we had a decent coach, he had Steve Price, Ruben Wiki, Michael Luck, and Brent Tate to provide positive leadership in the locker-room. Hoffman, Mannering, Luke and Lillyman don't have that same feel.</p>
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<p>There aren't many players on the free agent market right now who fit a Price/Wiki role, although Greg Eastwood would be a close fit. Should even contemplate the return of Elijah Taylor (at the right price).</p>
