Super Rugby 2022
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
oh, good, and we're back here
Exclusive: Rugby Australia tells NZ it will walk in bombshell move set to tear Super Rugby apart
Exclusive: RA tells New Zealand it will walk in bombshell move to tear Super Rugby apart
Yeah? This is from Foxsport site? The super deal was always until 2023 , and just read the article, Argentina got a quarter of the Supersport deal, bullshit, the splitting of supersport deal finshed before they even came into the comp, because SA said they were getting all the coin so everyone did their own tv deals. And NZR $91m deal is not for super rugby, it's for all NZ rugby including School, NPC, Super and tests. Take the whole article with a huge dose of doubtm because RA is going to pay an expanded super comp with $29 mill!
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Dan54 It is written by Christy Doran after all - who is essentially a tabloid rugby journo
Also add, that article also says Aus and SA will look at joining up? So Aus are going to rejoin SA and start travelling to SA again?? Much as I would love the Saffas in the comp. there is almost noone in Aus want it!
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
oh, good, and we're back here
Exclusive: Rugby Australia tells NZ it will walk in bombshell move set to tear Super Rugby apart
Exclusive: RA tells New Zealand it will walk in bombshell move to tear Super Rugby apart
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@antipodean said in Super Rugby 2022:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
oh, good, and we're back here
Exclusive: Rugby Australia tells NZ it will walk in bombshell move set to tear Super Rugby apart
Exclusive: RA tells New Zealand it will walk in bombshell move to tear Super Rugby apart
Play amongst themselves? That will only make them stronger.....
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Listened to Tim Horan being interviewed yesterday and he said it would be the worst move OZ rugby could make. Without getting into the economics of it, his main point was the quality of opposition for the OZ teams. He said they need to play against the NZ teams and he likes the expansion with MP and Drua.
What is happening is not perfect and things have moved on significantly since the hey day of the old Super 12 (the peak for me - Super 14 and 15 nah), but there were some positives/lessons that still stand true today - don’t expand too quickly - don’t drag the season out too long - don’t have experimental laws - vary the venues / take to regions in both OZ and NZ.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Super Rugby 2022:
vary the venues / take to regions in both OZ and NZ
i assume this doesn't happen because season tickets and memberships are too valuable.
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@ACT-Crusader Horan is a bit of an idiot. Wouldn't be basing future decisions on anything he has to say.
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@Derpus said in Super Rugby 2022:
@ACT-Crusader Horan is a bit of an idiot. Wouldn't be basing future decisions on anything he has to say.
I think most people would agree with Horan's comments. You're about the only person (on here) constantly banging on about how Aus teams shouldn't play NZ teams.
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@Nepia said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Derpus said in Super Rugby 2022:
@ACT-Crusader Horan is a bit of an idiot. Wouldn't be basing future decisions on anything he has to say.
I think most people would agree with Horan's comments. You're about the only person constantly banging on about how Aus teams shouldn't play NZ teams.
You obviously haven't popped your head into any ozzie rugby sites. It's a pretty widespread opinion over there
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@Machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Nepia said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Derpus said in Super Rugby 2022:
@ACT-Crusader Horan is a bit of an idiot. Wouldn't be basing future decisions on anything he has to say.
I think most people would agree with Horan's comments. You're about the only person constantly banging on about how Aus teams shouldn't play NZ teams.
You obviously haven't popped your head into any ozzie rugby sites. It's a pretty widespread opinion over there
Nope, none.
I'll re-edit my post then.
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@Machpants yeah, i think its easy for kiwis to looks at super rugby as this show piece because we still have the NPC to develop players, obviously less than before but its still there, quite different in Aus, as i said earlier there is effectively nothing between club and super rugby over here so the idea of a more level playing field is attractive to lots
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@Kiwiwomble I take my hat off to Oz rugby for trying things like the MARC etc but it’s damn hard to get the necessary traction to make it economically viable in a crowded Oz winter sports market.
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@Nepia most people want a domestic comp. I don't get this weird thing where everyone keeps telling us what we actually want. SR has never had great buy in here.
Edit: and I still think Aus teams should play Kiwi teams - it just shouldn't be the entire comp. Champions cup style crossover would be my preference.
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So, if we lose the Australian teams, what is the option?
I'd consider setting up a 12 team competition (10 NZ sides, MP, Drua or another South Pacific team) to replace Super/NPC.
We could then try to get a competition going with the Japanese league one teams with a cross over tournament (Championship, bowl, plate).
We could add Oz teams as well, but if they walk out on us, I'd try to fuck them up and leave them isolated by closing off Japan from them, and leaving them 100% in the cold.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Kiwiwomble I take my hat off to Oz rugby for trying things like the MARC etc but it’s damn hard to get the necessary traction to make it economically viable in a crowded Oz winter sports market.
my wild speculation is they might think they can use RWC money to bankroll a new competition until (if?) it becomes sustainable...not sure we would see this kind of thing if they hadn't won the RWC
@Derpus said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Nepia most people want a domestic comp. I don't get this weird thing where everyone keeps telling us what we actually want. SR has never had great buy in here.
Edit: and I still think Aus teams should play Kiwi teams - it just shouldn't be the entire comp. Champions cup style crossover would be my preference.
thats the key point i think, still have some spectacle for a couple of weeks...but with something behind it to actually grow talent and interest
