• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

Super Rugby 2022

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
1.6k Posts 77 Posters 188.4k Views
Super Rugby 2022
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • NepiaN Online
    NepiaN Online
    Nepia
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #1335

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Duluth I think it would be his brother ending up on the bench. πŸ™‚ Perofeta to 10, Jordie to fullback. BB wearing 22. Zarn Sullivan to the Canes and Magpies. Perfect solution.

    Sullivan to the Magpies and any other franchise is my preference.

    StargazerS Crazy HorseC 2 Replies Last reply
    1
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
    #1336

    @Bovidae Yeah, I can't see it happening, but I think it would be great for the Highlanders if it happened.

    KiwiwombleK 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    replied to Nepia on last edited by
    #1337

    @Nepia Yeah, nah. I know I've been suggesting the Highlanders should appoint Mark Ozich, but what I really want is for Ozich to replace Jason Holland at the Canes. A change of guard that could be great for the Bay, because Ozich wouldn't want anything to do with that favouritism that's going on now. Whether we like it or not, the Bay is part of the Hurricanes franchise, so I'd like a coach who recognises that and selects his best players accordingly. That should include bringing players like Zarn home, which would be great as he'd be playing with his brother. And obviously, both signign with the Bay.

    alt text

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • Crazy HorseC Offline
    Crazy HorseC Offline
    Crazy Horse
    replied to Nepia on last edited by
    #1338

    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Duluth I think it would be his brother ending up on the bench. πŸ™‚ Perofeta to 10, Jordie to fullback. BB wearing 22. Zarn Sullivan to the Canes and Magpies. Perfect solution.

    Sullivan to the Magpies and any other franchise is my preference.

    The Crusaders will need a replacement for RM soon πŸ˜€

    StargazerS NepiaN 2 Replies Last reply
    0
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    replied to Crazy Horse on last edited by Stargazer
    #1339

    @Crazy-Horse Harry Godfrey is another one who would be wasted at the Canes under current management. A bit greener than Zarn, but a special prospect I think.

    HigginsH 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • KiwiMurphK Online
    KiwiMurphK Online
    KiwiMurph
    wrote on last edited by
    #1340

    For the good of NZ Rugby Zarn should be playing 10 and that pathway looks blocked at the Blues with Beaudy and Perofeta both around so a shift to another franchise makes sense.

    Hopefully Zarn gets time at 10 in the NPC for Auckland - if Auckland play Hickey at 10 in front of Zarn they have rocks in their heads.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • DuluthD Offline
    DuluthD Offline
    Duluth
    wrote on last edited by
    #1341

    Zarn is with the Blues until 2024

    He's had very few minutes at ten in his career. When he has shifted there it hasn't gone that well.

    I'd like to see him get time at 10 in the NPC. However it is possible that his best position is fullback

    1 Reply Last reply
    3
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by
    #1342

    I only noticed Zarn last year when he had some short spells and what made him stand out was the time he had on the ball. To me that flags him as potential to be a very good ten. He has good control over his kicks as well.
    Obviously needs to play there to grow in the decision making area.

    I'm seeing a slightly different guy this year which makes me wonder if he is trying to much to play a certain way at fullback rather than let his natural instincts show where they should go.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • KiwiwombleK Offline
    KiwiwombleK Offline
    Kiwiwomble Banned
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #1343

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Bovidae Yeah, I can't see it happening, but I think it would be great for the Highlanders if it happened.

    im not sure ....i have flash backs to nonu, we need a full culture change and squad evaluation first and foremost, one big name wont cut it i dont think

    antipodeanA 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • antipodeanA Online
    antipodeanA Online
    antipodean
    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
    #1344

    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Bovidae Yeah, I can't see it happening, but I think it would be great for the Highlanders if it happened.

    im not sure ....i have flash backs to nonu, we need a full culture change and squad evaluation first and foremost, one big name wont cut it i dont think

    Have you thought about importing a bunch of established All Blacks from other franchises? That level of performance culture should fix whatever's wrong down South.

    KiwiwombleK 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • KiwiwombleK Offline
    KiwiwombleK Offline
    Kiwiwomble Banned
    replied to antipodean on last edited by
    #1345

    @antipodean its bound to work the second time aye?

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • NepiaN Online
    NepiaN Online
    Nepia
    replied to Crazy Horse on last edited by
    #1346

    @Crazy-Horse said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Duluth I think it would be his brother ending up on the bench. πŸ™‚ Perofeta to 10, Jordie to fullback. BB wearing 22. Zarn Sullivan to the Canes and Magpies. Perfect solution.

    Sullivan to the Magpies and any other franchise is my preference.

    The Crusaders will need a replacement for RM soon πŸ˜€

    If he returns to Hawkes Bay I’d rather he go to the Crusaders than the Canes.

    StargazerS 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    replied to Nepia on last edited by
    #1347

    @Nepia alt text

    NepiaN 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • NepiaN Online
    NepiaN Online
    Nepia
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #1348

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Nepia alt text

    The Canes are a cancer for Bay players. I’d rather they play under Razor than get missused by the Canes.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • HigginsH Offline
    HigginsH Offline
    Higgins
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #1349

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Crazy-Horse Harry Godfrey is another one who would be wasted at the Canes under current management. A bit greener than Zarn, but a special prospect I think.

    Probably as Mr. Larsen, who has miraculously managed to get him allocated to his Petone Cub, will still be involved so at best will be sure to be gathering a collection of jerseys numbered between 21 and 23.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by
    #1350

    @Nepia said in SF Blues v Brumbies:

    @Donsteppa said in SF Blues v Brumbies:

    Brumbies were always going to fuck this game up with a poor man's Bryn Gatland at first five. πŸ™‚

    As a Chiefs fan I object to that. I think Gatland is a poor mans Lolesio..

    Teams pretty much ended up in order of first-fives as is usually the case in Super. Comes down to the battle of RM v BB

    Reds fell apart without JOC. Tahs young fella has a fair bit to learn. Same with Canes best option. Gatland/Ioane/Lolosio all about the same

    If I had to rank the best 10s from each team I'd end up with a list that closely resembled the team RR table (ignoring those teams where the overall weakness made it too hard for a 10 to influence wins e.g. MP)

    Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.

    nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • nzzpN Offline
    nzzpN Offline
    nzzp
    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #1351

    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:

    Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.

    Spot on I think. The Blues 10s have had talent, but with a garbage administration around them, they've struggled.

    Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

    A history of Blues first-fives: 29 and counting (have you heard of them all?)

    A history of Blues first-fives: 29 and counting (have you heard of them all?)

    29 different players have played at first-five for the Blues. How many have worked out?

    CrucialC 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    replied to nzzp on last edited by
    #1352

    @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:

    Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.

    Spot on I think. The Blues 10s have had talent, but with a garbage administration around them, they've struggled.

    Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

    A history of Blues first-fives: 29 and counting (have you heard of them all?)

    A history of Blues first-fives: 29 and counting (have you heard of them all?)

    29 different players have played at first-five for the Blues. How many have worked out?

    I wonder if it took having BB at training for Perofeta to finally click. His talent was obvious from early on (Perofuture) but the 'future' part took some time and had little upward trajectory for a while. Since BB has been there his game jumped up a level or two.

    Chiefs or Canes with the new improved Perofeta would be a much harder proposition.

    nzzpN KiwiMurphK 2 Replies Last reply
    0
  • nzzpN Offline
    nzzpN Offline
    nzzp
    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #1353

    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:

    Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.

    Spot on I think. The Blues 10s have had talent, but with a garbage administration around them, they've struggled.

    Super Rugby, Sport, Rugby

    A history of Blues first-fives: 29 and counting (have you heard of them all?)

    A history of Blues first-fives: 29 and counting (have you heard of them all?)

    29 different players have played at first-five for the Blues. How many have worked out?

    I wonder if it took having BB at training for Perofeta to finally click.

    That, and time. Asking 10s to come in and turn teams around is incredibly hard. I've just posted in the Blues 2022 thread, but the new board in Feb 2019 was massive for us.

    Remember, people (including me) thought Perofeta was a wash, and the critique of Beaudy being on sabbatical was massive. Our record has been steadily improving:

    2018 4-12
    2019 5-1-10
    2020 5-2
    2021 4-4 and 5-0
    2022 13-1

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • KiwiMurphK Online
    KiwiMurphK Online
    KiwiMurph
    replied to Crucial on last edited by KiwiMurph
    #1354

    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:

    I wonder if it took having BB at training for Perofeta to finally click. His talent was obvious from early on (Perofuture) but the 'future' part took some time and had little upward trajectory for a while. Since BB has been there his game jumped up a level or two.

    Perofeta talked about the dynamic with BB a few days ago

    β€œI’ve always idolised him,” he said of the 101-test All Black who missed last year's Super Rugby competition for his Japan sabbatical. β€œHe’s a great player. I had a mindset shift of how can I better myself through his experience? The biggest barrier I had to break down was just to ask for help … so I’m clear and he’s clear on what we need from each other.
    
    β€œOnce I broke that we started to build that relationship that is really having positive spinoffs on the field.”
    
    1 Reply Last reply
    0

Super Rugby 2022
Sports Talk
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.