Blues 2022
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'That's the Brodie Retallick-like mindset': The potential All Blacks bolter at lock
James Tucker has been in great form the Blues so far this season, and may just be rewarded with a maiden call up to the All Blacks squad.
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Or summarising comments from the Breakdown..
I think Tucker has a shot though. Assuming he maintains form and fitness. Injuries have ruined his career so far
His carrying and linking play stands out compared to other NZ locks
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@Duluth The thing is I can more or less name their weekly squads, it all gets a little tedious. Would prefer more objectivity. My thoughts on Tucker, bloody awesome for the Blues damn good signing and is having a good season in Goodhue's absence.
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@Bovidae said in Blues 2022:
I think Parsons must just go through the list of Blues players to talk up each week.
I'm a big Tucker fan but he is under-sized to be an international lock.
Tucker is bigger than Scott Barrett, Ah Kahoi, Dunshea, Strange and Ghallagher.
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@Asterik6 said in Blues 2022:
@Bovidae said in Blues 2022:
I think Parsons must just go through the list of Blues players to talk up each week.
I'm a big Tucker fan but he is under-sized to be an international lock.
Tucker is bigger than Scott Barrett, Ah Kahoi, Dunshea, Strange and Ghallagher.
yeah but Barretts fluctuate massively in general size depending on who is posting on here.
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@Asterik6 said in Blues 2022:
@Bovidae said in Blues 2022:
I think Parsons must just go through the list of Blues players to talk up each week.
I'm a big Tucker fan but he is under-sized to be an international lock.
Tucker is bigger than Scott Barrett, Ah Kahoi, Dunshea, Strange and Ghallagher.
Based on the All Blacks app, which appears to get updated more often than a lot of teams pages (in most cases), I believe all of those players are either taller or heavier than Tucker (some are taller, some are heavier).
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@Asterik6 said in Blues 2022:
@Bovidae said in Blues 2022:
I think Parsons must just go through the list of Blues players to talk up each week.
I'm a big Tucker fan but he is under-sized to be an international lock.
Tucker is bigger than Scott Barrett, Ah Kahoi, Dunshea, Strange and Ghallagher.
No he isn't my Son played Cricket with him at St Beds and is still mates with him Barrett,Gallagher are bigger than James.
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BLUES U20s SET FOR SUPER RUGBY NEXT GEN COMP — Blues Rugby
The Blues have named their 27-strong team for the Super Rugby Next Gen presented by Bunnings Warehouse to be held in Taupo starting this weekend. This week-long event provides a great development experience for New Zealand’s best young players and features six teams, five from the Super Rugby clubs
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@Bovidae said in Blues 2022:
I think Parsons must just go through the list of Blues players to talk up each week.
I'm a big Tucker fan but he is under-sized to be an international lock.
He seems to be similar sized to Scott Barrett who when not getting red carded is a decent international lock.
IMO he'll have to do more than have one good season given Whitelock, Retallick, Va'ai, Lord and a returning Patty Tuipulotu. Let's see if he can back it up next season.
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Coventry confirmed the knocks that kept the Ioane brothers and Robinson out were not of the worrying persuasion. “We’ve been pretty conservative with their injuries. If we were playing a semifinal or final they could be on the field, but we don’t want to take any risks. Tom got a head knock at training, so it’s precautionary, Rieko hurt himself last week with his hamstring, and Aki‘s foot has started to flare up a bit with his workload, so we’ve just taken a bit of a load off for this weekend.” -
@bobily2 i really hate the size comparisons for locks and loosies.
you cant just compare height and weight. There can be huge differance in arm lengths, strength and body composition that mean alot more than those stats which are often all over the show anyway. not to mention skill levels
Just watch how effective someone is at individual aspects of the game and thats the real comparison. If there was a 6 '4 ardie savea youd take him at lock any day of the week. A 30 year old brad thorn would still start for the AB's
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@muddyriver said in Blues 2022:
@bobily2 i really hate the size comparisons for locks and loosies.
you cant just compare height and weight. There can be huge differance in arm lengths, strength and body composition that mean alot more than those stats which are often all over the show anyway. not to mention skill levels
Just watch how effective someone is at individual aspects of the game and thats the real comparison. If there was a 6 '4 ardie savea youd take him at lock any day of the week. A 30 year old brad thorn would still start for the AB's
I agree - it's not a complete picture. However, I was just replying to claims that James Tucker is bigger than the other locks mentioned (given it really doesn't look to be the case). It isn't that I necessarily think that locks have to be above a particular height/weight.
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@muddyriver said in Blues 2022:
@bobily2 i really hate the size comparisons for locks and loosies.
you cant just compare height and weight. There can be huge differance in arm lengths, strength and body composition that mean alot more than those stats which are often all over the show anyway. not to mention skill levels
Just watch how effective someone is at individual aspects of the game and thats the real comparison. If there was a 6 '4 ardie savea youd take him at lock any day of the week.
BoricIsaac Ross light? Locks are supposed to hit rucks. -
@muddyriver said in Blues 2022:
There can be huge differance in arm lengths
Chabal was a decent lock at 1.91 because his knuckles dragged on the ground
Tucker is moving bodies, winning lineouts, carrying well etc. If he does that against the Brumbies and then follows up in the knockouts he's a chance. His game is different than most our other lock options
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Take some of the listed heights and weights of players with a big grain of salt. I think Tucker is probably about 1.95 m when you see him standing next to other locks. My original comment about him being under-sized for an international lock was more about his height, not his playing ability. As I said, I have always been a big fan.
Thorn was the same height, so is Frizell.
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@Bovidae said in Blues 2022:
Take some of the listed heights and weights of players with a big grain of salt. I think Tucker is probably about 1.95 m when you see him standing next to other locks. My original comment about him being under-sized for an international lock was more about his height, not his playing ability. As I said, I have always been a big fan.
Thorn was the same height, so is Frizell.
You've taken 2cms off of Tuckers listed height but then trust Thorn and Frizells listed heights?
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