2023 (expanded) World Cup in South Africa

Rowan

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Genuine question though - would South Africa be considered a safe pair of hands for the RWC?
 
Japan has already had some major issues (Singapore/HK axed, national stadium lost) and I don't imagine anything outside transport logistics will come easy there. I can imagine World Rugby would much prefer a safe pair of hands for 2023 if 2019 is going to be very resource intensive for them. Sporting bodies routinely do this.
 
There is no doubt South Africa can organise a tournament in the modern era (they did the Soccer World Cup), but given their national board and the governments antagonism towards the sport I highly doubt it would be a walk in the park.
 
South Africa seems logical on paper, but the more you look at it from a WR perspective Ireland is the better candidate.
 
I can just see those idiots trying to get the Southern Kings inserted into the World Cup or some other such nonsense.
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Yet South Africa has won two World Cups and finished third last year, while Ireland has never even reached the semi-finals. Is that any indication of which union is more competent?

booboo

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I thought 99 was a better tournament than 91 or 11, ...</blockquote>
 
Then you ARE an idiot

Hooroo

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Yet South Africa has won two World Cups and finished third last year, while Ireland has never even reached the semi-finals. Is that any indication of which union is more competent? 
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Absolutely not. That just shows who had the better team

Derm McCrum

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I've already demonstrated that London is significant warmer than both Dublin and Belfast in October, has about twice as many sunshine hours, and a much lower chance of rainfall. 
Yes, the 1995 final was a titanic struggle between two evenly-matched teams, that's why. Same happened in Australia in the 2003 final, and also in 2011. When the teams are that good - and that close - the conditions are basically irrelevant. But in the vast majority of the games, they undoubtedly play a part. A wet track is not conducive to espansive rugby, plain and simply.</blockquote>
 
The temperatures you've provided for Dublin and Belfast are not accurate. Mean temps in Sept/Oct are 15-17c. You seem to have a dreadful fear of rain. It's not like it's pouring down every single hour. 
And the stadia are located throughout the island not just in two of the cities. The cities of Limerick, Cork, Waterford, Kilkenny, Galway and Derry would also likely feature as fan destinations. 
Might be useful to do some accurate homework. Or even listen to someone who's been there (hint)

Rowan

"Qatar is hosting the FIFA World Cup in a few years, a country less than half the size of the Waikato."
 
Okay, FIFA should be heartily congratulated on its perspicacious decision to award the World Cup to Qatar. This has been received with universal approval and enthusiasm and is the perfect argument in favor of sending the Rugby World Cup to another tiny island. Good argument, this...

Disgusted of TW

OK, I've sussed it - this is a Turing test, and Rowan is an AI?

taniwharugby

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Yet South Africa has won two World Cups and finished third last year, while Ireland has never even reached the semi-finals. Is that any indication of which union is more competent? 
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If you think on field results is an example of which country or Union is more competent (most SA fans freely admit the SARU is a mess) then you are an even bigger idiot than I thought you were!

Hooroo

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"Qatar is hosting the FIFA World Cup in a few years, a country less than half the size of the Waikato."
 
Okay, FIFA should be heartily congratulated on its perspicacious decision to award the World Cup to Qatar. This has been received with universal approval and enthusiasm and is the perfect argument in favor of sending the Rugby World Cup to another tiny island. Good argument, this... 
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You report posts for being infintile and then you post this.
 
Could you not understand the point of the post is that Ireland has more than enough terra firma to host an event such as the RWC

jegga

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I thought 99 was a better tournament than 91 or 11, but, yes, the play off system wasnt good. The group stages were fine - that was my original point.</blockquote>
 
You are the only person I have ever seen say 99 was a good format. 
Who are these outsiders that think 2011 was poor? Names and links please. 
This should be good.....,

Rowan

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The temperatures you've provided for Dublin and Belfast are not accurate. Mean temps in Sept/Oct are 15-17c. You seem to have a dreadful fear of rain. It's not like it's pouring down every single hour. 
And the stadia are located throughout the island not just in two of the cities. The cities of Limerick, Cork, Waterford, Kilkenny, Galway and Derry would also likely feature as fan destinations. 
Might be useful to do some accurate homework. Or even listen to someone who's been there (hint)
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THe temperatures I provided for October (not September) were taken directly from official sources. It's well known Northern Ireland, in particular, has pretty rotten weather. 9 degreees, 74% chance of rain, two hours' of sunshine a day, dark by mid-afternoon.

Disgusted of TW

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Pot Hale" data-cid="554931" data-time="1454027529">The temperatures you've provided for Dublin and Belfast are not accurate. Mean temps in Sept/Oct are 15-17c. You seem to have a dreadful fear of rain. It's not like it's pouring down every single hour.</blockquote>
 
And even then, 'tis a soft rain, as me dear auld mammy used to say. Rain before 7, dry by 11. Etc.

jegga

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Yet South Africa has won two World Cups and finished third last year, while Ireland has never even reached the semi-finals. Is that any indication of which union is more competent?</blockquote>
 
No it indicates you like to cherry pick facts out of desperation , japan are hosting a rwc and have never even made the quarters.

Derm McCrum

Rowan 
You've never visited South Africa. And you think it's the bees knees. 
You said had been to Ireland. I'm beginning to think you must have been served a bad pint or something. When did you visit, where and how long was your stay?

jegga

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Disgusted of TW" data-cid="554933" data-time="1454027757">OK, I've sussed it - this is a Turing test, and Rowan is an AI?</blockquote>
 
No , the artificial would cover his premise for hosting rights I guess. There's no sign of the intelligence part of AI though

Derm McCrum

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THe temperatures I provided for October (not September) were taken directly from official sources. It's well known Northern Ireland, in particular, has pretty rotten weather. 9 degreees, 74% chance of rain, two hours' of sunshine a day, dark by mid-afternoon.</blockquote>
 
What official sources did you use? 
I visit Belfast every second week and it's not well known to me.

Rowan

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You are the only person I have ever seen say 99 was a good format. 
Who are these outsiders that think 2011 was poor? Names and links please. 
This should be good.....,
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No, I have agreed (more than once) that the format was not ideal, but that the fault lay with the first round of the knock-out phase, not with the group stages, which were fine - and free of controversy. The tournament was enjoyable overall, however, producing two of the most dramatic semi-finals ever.

mariner4life

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"Qatar is hosting the FIFA World Cup in a few years, a country less than half the size of the Waikato."
 
Okay, FIFA should be heartily congratulated on its perspicacious decision to award the World Cup to Qatar. This has been received with universal approval and enthusiasm and is the perfect argument in favor of sending the Rugby World Cup to another tiny island. Good argument, this... 
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you've hit the nail on the head there. Definitely the reason for the outcry against Qatar is the size of the country.

Rowan

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What official sources did you use? 
I visit Belfast every second week and it's not well known to me.
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I accessed the meteorological web sites of both countries. Is that okay?

mariner4life

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You report posts for being infintile and then you post this.
 
Could you not understand the point of the post is that Ireland has more than enough terra firma to host an event such as the RWC
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holy shit he's reporting posts?! That's fucking awesome!
 
This thread really delivers

Rowan

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you've hit the nail on the head there. Definitely the reason for the outcry against Qatar is the size of the country. 
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Thanks, but it's not my own original idea: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-51548220100916'>http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-51548220100916</a>

The Silver Fern

2023 (expanded) World Cup in South Africa