Tour De France 2021
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@williethewaiter said in Tour De France 2021:
@mariner4life said in Tour De France 2021:
@williethewaiter i remember that debate from a couple of years back. Essentially guys were saying discs were a problem because of how good they are at stopping bikes.
yeh i don't really buy it as the direct mount brakes and pads on rim now are so good it stopping basically comes down to the contact patch from your tyre.. easy enough to lock up a rim brake on a 25.. cept in the wet obviously discs much better
i don't know enough to have an opinion, only i remember it seemed weird at the time
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Given that weight (or lack of) is a bigger consideration I would assume that the really good 4 pot disc brakes and larger rotors are not a viable option. They give you far more feathering control and are less likely to lock up. Think ABS braking on cars.
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@crucial said in Tour De France 2021:
Given that weight (or lack of) is a bigger consideration I would assume that the really good 4 pot disc brakes and larger rotors are not a viable option. They give you far more feathering control and are less likely to lock up. Think ABS braking on cars.
I should state I'm firmly in the rim brake camp for road bikes.. when I start riding the shit I ride on my mtb on my roadie I'll defo put rim brakes on.. until then.. enjoying hte second hand market for rim brake wheels!
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@williethewaiter totally agree. I upgraded my road bike wheelset earlier this year and was amazed at how few of the 2021 models even make a rim brake version though, feels like disc is taking over.
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Pogacar wins the time trial by 19 seconds over Stefan Kung and has a pretty solid grip on things compared to his main rivals.
Van Aert was 30 second down in the TT and I'm not sure he yet counts as a main rival.
Roglic lost another 44 seconds, Alaphilippe 1 minute 11 seconds, Thomas 1:18, and Carapaz 1.44.
Van der Poel still has the yellow jersey - just - but Carapaz is 1.36 down on Pogacar, with Roglic a further 4 seconds back and Thomas 6 seconds behind Roglic.
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@chris-b said in Tour De France 2021:
Pogacar wins the time trial by 19 seconds over Stefan Kung and has a pretty solid grip on things compared to his main rivals.
Van Aert was 30 second down in the TT and I'm not sure he yet counts as a main rival.
Roglic lost another 44 seconds, Alaphilippe 1 minute 11 seconds, Thomas 1:18, and Carapaz 1.44.
Van der Poel still has the yellow jersey - just - but Carapaz is 1.36 down on Pogacar, with Roglic a further 4 seconds back and Thomas 6 seconds behind Roglic.
Carapaz the big loser there. Just got himself up the board to look like the man Ineos would get behind but dropped right back. Roglic now has the option of attaching himself behind Ineos if he needs to give his team a rest.
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Great to see Cavendish do it again.
With that lead out he really could win a few this year which would be ace
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What’s the view on Pog (and Rog) riding clean? I’m not naive enough to think that doping has been completely eradicated from the peloton, but from other sites I’ve looked at, there’s a school of thought that Pog is definitely on the gear; the Slovenian doping controls are quite lax. Now this view is not backed up by any real evidence that I can find. Would be sad if it’s proven to be the case as I quite like the way they ride.
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@scribe Hard to know.
It's certainly a golden age for Slovenian cycling.
One thing I've liked about cycling in the past few years is that (mainly) pretty much everyone has shown some substantial weakness somewhere in a Grand Tour. E.g. Bernal in the Giro. Roglic last night.
When you see guys showing no weaknesses, winning the time trials and burning off the best climbers it seems too good to be true and probably is.
Very interesting stage last night. Pogacar has given Van der Poel and Van Aert a substantial head start now. Thomas and Carapaz 5+ minutes back.
The brief article I read was attributing Roglic's failure to his crash a couple of days ago. Probably right, since there wasn't much on the day that should have cracked him otherwise (heat?). Anyway, he is cooked and you'd imagine TJV will be all in behind Van Aert now.
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Leaderboard looks quite spread for week 1.
It’s not like the top five have hammered themselves to get some early promotion either.
I guess that week 2 will see teams show their hands a bit.
Ineos strategy seems to be to control the peloton (what a surprise) and pounce on any weaknesses shown by contenders like they did with Rog last night. Pick them off one by one. -
@sparky said in Tour De France 2021:
Le Tour reaches the Alps this weekend. 🔥
I like the idea of these downhill finishes after the climbs.
We’ll see how it works tonight.
Tomorrow’s finish is at Tignes. Not overly steep but the elevation/altitude is pretty hard if he are gasping.Wednesday twice up Ventoux. That could get fun.
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@sparky Yeah - despite that there's a long way to go - it's all over bar the shouting if Pog remains on his bike.
Carapaz and maybe Gaudu the only genuine GC contenders within a Bulls roar of Pogacar.
Van Aert can't live with him in the mountains and has no avenue back in the Time Trials.
