EPL 2021 / 2022
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@mariner4life said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@MajorRage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Great win for Liverpool …. But Keane is overshadowing the game. Scathing and completely on point
he's been at them for a fair while now
he's not wrong with most if it either.
Yeah, his comments can be summarised as no longer being angry, more sad at what the club has become. Random recruitment, lack of real interest from the players, and a culture setup where players believe they are bigger than the manager. Souness said in a combined Man U / Liverpool team he'd not pick a single man U player & Keane agreed with him. Said the team is really lacking characters to actually lead the club. The ones you rally behind, the ones who make you believe, the ones you don't want to let down. The ones who simply don't allow their team to be dominated.
Gary Neville joined in a bit later and was absolutely scathing of the club from the top down. Glazers, management have all led the club to where it is now. Rangnick has no respect as he's interim only, lot of players are off contract at end of the year and are showing that they don't want to be there. Maguire played half assed at best. Said the only player he liked last night was Hannibal who actually kicked a couple of players and got carded. Said it showed he cared & wanted to show Liverpool that he was unhappy at being bossed.
It was a really interesting post match.
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@Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
So Arsenal shits the bed against 3 teams in the bottom half of the table and then goes to Stamford Bridge and puts 4 past Chelsea.
Peak Arsenal right there. I look forward to them beating Spurs and then losing to Everton in the final week to miss out on CL.
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Early game this weekend is Arsenal v Man United. If Arsenal win, then Man U are 6 points back with just 4 games to play and surely with no chance of making the top 4. A draw keeps it open.
And a win for Burnley today means they are just a point behind Everton and Leeds aren't yet safe. Watford and Norwich look goneburger though.
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Man U appoint Erik Ten Hag
good luck
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the Top two are too hard to pick because they are both still contending for multiple titles and that and injuries will determine it. I suspect Chelsea will take the FA Cup and Liverpool the Title. I can't see City getting no silverware so I guess that means they finally win the CL, But really all permutations are in play.
I think United are a joke so have only looked at Spurs v Arse in the race for 4th. All the remaining fixtures are affected to a large degree by the mood of their opposition. Particularly at the bottom if results start dropping off and a team mentally gives up and heads for the beach then the impact on the table is immense. Momentum will be key. For what it's is worth -
Spurs 57 points
Brentford (A) Leicester (H) Liverpool (A) Arsenal (H) Burnley (H) Norwich (A)
DM predicts 71 pointsArsenal 57 points
Man U (H) West Ham (A) Leeds (H) Spurs (A) Newcastle (A) Everton (H)
DM predicts 71 pointsLeeds 32 points
Palace (A) Man City (H) Arsenal (A) Chelsea (H) Brighton (H) Brentford (A)
DM predicts 36 pointsEverton 29 points
Liverpool (A) Chelsea (H) Leicester (A) Watford (H) Brentford (H) Palace (H) Arsenal (A)
DM predicts 35 pointsBurnley 28 points
Wolves (H) Watford (A) Villa (H) Spurs (A) Villa (A) Newcastle (H)
DM predicts 34 pointsPersonally I hope Burnley make it as I feel Leeds and Everton have more improvement in them and next season it looks like a real dog fight to avoid relegation.
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City appear to be stumbling to the line, but they've got the easier run in. There's a chance that LFC could concentrate on everything and win nothing.
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@dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Well that was emphatic
I watched the last 10 before half-time this morning and Fulham looked like they were going to score every couple of minutes - obviously in the 2nd half they cashed in. They play some good football, nice mix between passing through, going wide and going long. Will they prosper next season? Depends on a lot of factors.
Big game tomorrow Bournemouth v Forest. A draw and Bournemouth need a point on the final day, a Forest win and they are level on points but Forest have a better goal difference. Both of those look well equipped to win the play-offs.
Oldham relegated from the football league and the first team that played in the premier league to drop out. Another sad tale of a useless owner.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Well that was emphatic
I watched the last 10 before half-time this morning and Fulham looked like they were going to score every couple of minutes - obviously in the 2nd half they cashed in. They play some good football, nice mix between passing through, going wide and going long. Will they prosper next season? Depends on a lot of factors.
Big game tomorrow Bournemouth v Forest. A draw and Bournemouth need a point on the final day, a Forest win and they are level on points but Forest have a better goal difference. Both of those look well equipped to win the play-offs.
Oldham relegated from the football league and the first team that played in the premier league to drop out. Another sad tale of a useless owner.
goal difference of 1, we are not talking a big difference
Big game for the cherries and looking like a big banana skin as Forest have been on a great run
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@bayimports It's not a big difference but it will of course increase if Forest win.
Having played both teams in the last fortnight Forest were much the better side.
I would far rather Bournemouth get promoted, despite Parker being a bit of a knob, because I think we are more likely to take six points off Bournemouth in the EPL than Forest.
I reckon if they do have to go through the play-offs, Forest will make it anyway; but I'm picking Bournemouth will dip out if you don't get automatic promotion .
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@dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@bayimports It's not a big difference but it will of course increase if Forest win.
Having played both teams in the last fortnight Forest were much the better side.
I would far rather Bournemouth get promoted, despite Parker being a bit of a knob, because I think we are more likely to take six points off Bournemouth in the EPL than Forest.
I reckon if they do have to go through the play-offs, Forest will make it anyway; but I'm picking Bournemouth will dip out if you don't get automatic promotion .
Bournemouth have not been themselves in the last 12 weeks, I wouldnt be surprised if automatic promotion doesnt happen they will dip out either. Not because I dont think we cant beat the other teams on the day, because I still thinkwe can and should but because we have lost all momentum and confidence
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So it is Liverpool into the UCL final - 3-2 on the night and 5-2 overall but Villarreal gave them a real scare by being 2-0 up at half-time.
More importantly, Bournemouth beat Forest to seal promotion and push Forest into the play-offs. Forest will play one of Sheffield United, Luton or Middlesbrough as will Huddersfield.
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@bayimports Congratulations.
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@KiwiPie Klopp's half time team talk would be an interesting listen. Liverpool were owned in the first half. Showed great character and commitment.
Still in with a shout of 3 cups. League looking a little too hard I reckon.
Both they and City have similar run ins. Each play Villa and Wolves. City has Newcastle and West Ham. Liverpool Spurs and Southampton. Difficult to see City providing an opening. Plus Liverpool have the FA Cup Final as well. -
@dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@KiwiPie Klopp's half time team talk would be an interesting listen. Liverpool were owned in the first half. Showed great character and commitment.
Still in with a shout of 3 cups. League looking a little too hard I reckon.
Both they and City have similar run ins. Each play Villa and Wolves. City has Newcastle and West Ham. Liverpool Spurs and Southampton. Difficult to see City providing an opening. Plus Liverpool have the FA Cup Final as well.In with a shout?
Mate, you can engrave the 4 trophies already.
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@dogmeat thank you! happy for the team, would have been a disaster to limp into playoffs, so good reward for a great season and won the game that mattered! Back up we go...(even for one year lol)
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@bayimports Staying up next year looks daunting.
Newcastle have improved out of sight. Everton can't be as bad again. Burnley are improving.
It's been fantastic following Fulham this year. 3 times scored 7 and twice 6. 100 goals best (equal) defence. The movement and ambition have been glorious at times. A season of almost uninterrupted highlights.
Yet if we play like that in the Prem we will be Norwich. Our ambition has to be to play boring pragmatic football and grind out the odd result and hope there are three worse teams than us. Need to get a good start.
My consolation / hope is that when Fulham went down to 2014 not one pundit saw it coming. We were firmly ensconced as a mid table stalwart for 13 successive seasons and then the sky fell in. Hoping the same happens next season to a Palace or similar.
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@MajorRage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@KiwiPie Klopp's half time team talk would be an interesting listen. Liverpool were owned in the first half. Showed great character and commitment.
Still in with a shout of 3 cups. League looking a little too hard I reckon.
Both they and City have similar run ins. Each play Villa and Wolves. City has Newcastle and West Ham. Liverpool Spurs and Southampton. Difficult to see City providing an opening. Plus Liverpool have the FA Cup Final as well.In with a shout?
Mate, you can engrave the 4 trophies already.
lol
League cup won
FA Cup Final
Champs league final
90 points in the leagueHell of a year.
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It'd be a hell of a year even if you only finish with the League Cup and Runners up in the other three. Not that anyone will see it that way no doubt and not that I think it will eventuate.
So has the Klopp era surpassed the Paisley one and if not what more needs to be achieved?
Surely if they do manage the quadruple it ends the debate?
Add to the accomplishments getting Klopp to extend.
