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<p>There are 7 players from India or Pakistan who have batted in a minimum of 75 innings with an average of over 50. 4 are from Pakistan</p>
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<p>There are 25 players from India or Pakistan who have batted in a minimum of 75 innings with an average of over 40. 10 are from Pakistan</p>
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<p>There are 11 pace bowlers from India or Pakistan who have taken at least 50 wickets with an average of under 30. 1 (Kapil) is from India - and he has the worst average</p>
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<p>There are 20 pace bowlers from India or Pakistan who have taken at least 50 wickets with an average of under 35. 5 (Kapil, Srinath, Irfan Pathan, Zaheer Khan, Karsan Ghavri) are from India</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dogmeat" data-cid="551419" data-time="1452217333"><p>There are 7 players from India or Pakistan who have batted in a minimum of 75 innings with an average of over 50. 4 are from Pakistan<br>
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There are 25 players from India or Pakistan who have batted in a minimum of 75 innings with an average of over 40. 10 are from Pakistan<br>
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There are 11 pace bowlers from India or Pakistan who have taken at least 50 wickets with an average of under 30. 1 (Kapil) is from India - and he has the worst average<br>
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There are 20 pace bowlers from India or Pakistan who have taken at least 50 wickets with an average of under 35. 5 (Kapil, Srinath, Irfan Pathan, Zaheer Khan, Karsan Ghavri) are from India</p></blockquote>
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Well those stats back up my bowling argument but surprised at the batting one, off the top of my head the Indian batsmen would be Gavaskar, Tendulkar and Dravid for India and Miandad.....and......shit can't guess the other three Pakistanis... -
<p>off the top of my head, Younis Khan and Mohammed Yousef would be in there, and what about fat old Inzie?</p>
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off the top of my head, Younis Khan and Mohammed Yousef would be in there, and what about fat old Inzie?</p></blockquote>
Nope, Mr spud head only managed 49.60.<br><br>
Just read a link on Joe Root, in England's entire history only seven blokes have averaged over 50........Shit I woulda thought it'd be more than that.<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/959395.html">http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/959395.html</a><br><br>
Him, KW and Steve Smith also prove that today's generation of outstanding batsmen all look 15 years old....(despite Williamsons beard) -
<p>Now you've made me use Cricinfo</p>
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<p>And it tells me the following Pakistani bat's man have played more than 75 innings and average more than 50</p>
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<p>Younis Khan - 53.94</p>
<p>Javed Miandad - 52.57</p>
<p>Mohammade Yousef - 52.29</p>
<p>Inzamam-ul-Haq - 50.16</p>
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<p>on England, i assume you mean "... and played more than 50 test innings"</p>
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<p>The number isn't high, but the names are some of the greatest in test history.</p>
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<p>They also have an awful lot in the very late 40s</p>
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<p>It doesn't surprise me that much actually. England weren't much chop for a long time in the batting era, and even then they didn't have stand-out test batsmen, but a lot of very good guys who are in the really late 40s.</p>
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<p>Australia, who fucking dominated much of the "batting" era, only have 9 guys to play 50 innings and average over 50, and 2 are still playing. </p> -
I see what's happened. For Pakistan, yes you are right about lard boy.....<br><br>
But one shit match for ICC brought the average below 50......<br><br>
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Off the top of my head for other countries I'd say.....( with no cricinfo cheating ) <br><br>
Oz: Bradman, Border, G Chappell, S Waugh, M Hayden, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey....( probably a few more )<br><br>
WI: Lara, Sobers, Richards, Worrall, Weekes, Walcott, Chanderpaul, Headley<br><br>
Zimbabwe: Flower<br><br>
SL: Sangakara<br><br>
SA: Kallis, Amla<br><br>
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<p>For Aus Clarke didn't get there, but Smith and Warner are both in. </p>
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<p>Who the fuck is Headley? Worrall didn't get there</p>
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Dude, hand on heart that was totally off the top of my head like I said. Pretty happy with my awesome level of cricket nerdness. <br><br>
This joker.....career was too short to qualify.....get a load of that fucken first class average though. <br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/player/52050.html">http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/player/52050.html</a><br><br>
I remember reading my Grandads books about the three Ws from the Windies, the one who missed the 50 average was a great captain I think..... -
<p>cracking record! </p>
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<p>While i was looking at this stuff, it showed how fucking good Bradman's numbers are. He played 52 tests, batted 80 times, and scored 7,000 runs. What was the 1930s equivalent of PEDs?</p> -
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<p>cracking record! </p>
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<p>While i was looking at this stuff, it showed how fucking good Bradman's numbers are. He played 52 tests, batted 80 times, and scored 7,000 runs. What was the 1930s equivalent of PEDs?</p>
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<p>Food.</p> -
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cracking record! <br><br>
While i was looking at this stuff, it showed how fucking good Bradman's numbers are. He played 52 tests, batted 80 times, and scored 7,000 runs. What was the 1930s equivalent of PEDs?</p></blockquote>
Without a word of a lie I truly believe the Rugby equivalent of Bradman would be a guy who plays like Richie McCaw with the added bonus of getting wide and playing like Jonah at the next phase. <br><br>
I still wonder if he wasn't actually real and was made up, how can anyone have dominated the game like that? The thread a few years back on here comparing Tendulkar to him was laughable, I'd argue ST was not even the best of his generation let alone being compared to 'The Don'<br><br>
You have to feel for a guy like Walter Hammond who played in the same era and who, whilst rightly regarded as one of the best of all time, averaged FORTY ONE less than he did!!!! -
<p>It's called the war. Take out 3/4 of the good cricketers who were killed in WW2 and suddenly, his record doesn't seem that great.... :fishing:</p>
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<p>I said that to an aussie mate once, he dead seat punched me in the head. We are sitll good mates to this day, and he confesses it's the greatest wind-up he's ever heard. I'm not convinced he's 100% over it, and it was over 10 years ago.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="551448" data-time="1452232240"><p>It's called the war. Take out 3/4 of the good cricketers who were killed in WW2 and suddenly, his record doesn't seem that great.... :fishing:<br>
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I said that to an aussie mate once, he dead seat punched me in the head. We are sitll good mates to this day, and he confesses it's the greatest wind-up he's ever heard. I'm not convinced he's 100% over it, and it was over 10 years ago.</p></blockquote>
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I'm not even Australian and I woulda glassed you for even joking about it. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="551444" data-time="1452230393"><p>cracking record! <br><br>
While i was looking at this stuff, it showed how fucking good Bradman's numbers are. He played 52 tests, batted 80 times, and scored 7,000 runs. What was the 1930s equivalent of PEDs?</p></blockquote>
6,996 runs to be pedantic, hence the shit 99.94 average.<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Virgil" data-cid="551506" data-time="1452286556"><p>6,996 runs to be pedantic, hence the shit 99.94 average.<br>
Clearly a choker too.</p></blockquote>
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Next best is 60. How many guys finish a long career averaging 60?<br><br>
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<p>10 - 20 tests is far too small of a career to gauge how good someone is. Lots of batsmen in the more modern era have started off with a rush of runs and had massive figures early on.</p>
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If Voges was to quit now would he be regarded as a great?</p></blockquote>
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I doubt it. People would point out how many he got against probably the worst Windies side ever. The bloke with the 60 average is Herbert Sutcliffe and his opening partner ( who experts consider a much better player in Jack Hobbs ) averaged 56. That woulda been rather daunting. -
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<p>I doubt it. People would point out how many he got against probably the worst Windies side ever. The bloke with the 60 average is Herbert Sutcliffe and his opening partner ( who experts consider a much better player in Jack Hobbs ) averaged 56. That woulda been rather daunting.</p>
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<p>Sutcliffe is a whole different matter, outstanding first class record, and formed one of the greatest opening partnerships of all time with Hobbs.</p>
